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  • aboutfkntime
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    #61
    Originally posted by sterilizer
    Not only that, he was drained like a corpse at 152 at the weigh-in. Probably they didn't give him the chance to pay a fine if he came in over 152, like Mayweather Jr. did vs a three divisions smaller JMM.

    Inexperienced, ****** naive and all, at 154 it would have been a very different story I am sure.


    Canelo is my guy..... but the weight made no difference whatsoever

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      #62
      Originally posted by asgarth
      The special circumstance is that canelo tested positive and they had to find a late replacement and independent if the situation involved golovkin or not, it is understandable that someone declines a high risk and low reward fight at short notice.


      That's how boxing operates and from memory I can only recall lennox lewis taking on a tough short notice opponent in vitali klischko.

      If fury somehow had cancelled his fight against wilder, it would be similar to if wilder had to face joyce at short notice and i cant see his handlers accepting that fight.

      Or if mayweathers fight against baldomir fell through and he had to face williams or margarito at short notice.
      No way that would have happened and that's reasonable.

      Another suitable comparison.
      If chavez jr tested positive against martinez and the at that time very high risk and low reward golovkin demands to fight martinez at short notice, it is perfectly fine (at least for me), if martinez doesnt want to take him on.


      that excuse really is nonsense.....

      1) Golovkin had a full camp
      2) Golovkin is supposed to be this killer with Olympic pedigree
      3) Derevyanchenko is orthodox, straight up and down, with no special effects

      the guy was a 10-fight rookie

      can Golovkin beat those guys, or not..... ?

      Korobov just stepped in with Charlo at 2 minutes notice

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        #63
        Originally posted by asgarth
        You are reading what you want to read. I havent criticize canelos choice of opponent at any point of our conservation lol.

        Once in a while u can have a soft touch. No problem with that. Canelo fought in september had a quick turn around and is supposed to face a challenge in may.

        Still though, saying that fielding was a champion makes you look even more biased. It's the regular title. The title has no value as long as there is a wba super champ.

        AND YES i dont count golovkins wba regular title fights to his title run, just in case you use golovkin again as an argument.

        Fieldung is an ok british domestic level operator. Had a decent win over zeuge and earned his #9 spot at 168 (which isnt a deep weightclass though).
        I did say he’s the weakest of the champions. He holds a belt So that makes him a champion. Now so what are you arguing about then. You tagged me on one of your post. And then went on a rant making excuses why Lil G ducked Derevinchenko. Charlo is gonna fight Korobov on short notice and you don’t see him making excuses. He took the fight.

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        • landotter
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          #64
          I have enjoyed the crap out of this thread....



          This was a wash, but we knew it was going to be when it was signed. No reason to be irritated now. Alvarez owes no one anything, Fielding got paid, and the boxing public got a nice time and a big KO. You can find easy wins in the prime of most any Hall of Famer. No harm, no foul.

          Dragging the Trip G fights into this discussion is fun, but really useless. Great fights, no wins for Golovkin. I am betting he will get one more chance if he gets a couple of wins under his belt, so STILL no harm, no foul.

          Let's see what Alvarez does next. I am betting a legit 160 opponent. Maybe not the cream of the crop, but a good one. Then this passes to being just a footnote in his career. Just like it is supposed to be. If he fights another "B" level opponent, we can start worrying. I did not like the Smith or the Chavez JR fights, but the 2 bouts with Golovkin were top level. Alvarez has the world at his feet right now. Let's see what he does next and spot him this one.

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          • BillyBoxing
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            #65
            Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
            Hello, hater.

            Gift D according to haters. Like you.

            Nobody said that about Loma but it's a fact that Salido is his daddy and his best rival at this moment.

            You don't need to said that, México has like 13 champions and is the best boxing , they and the afroamerican.

            Period.
            Hater, lol, you sound like a Justin Bieber fangirl bro.


            You're a pathetic poster. So I just wanted to call you out on your own bullshts.

            Yeah Mexico the best in boxing, if it can make you feel better I'm cool with that.

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            • Mexican_Puppet
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              #66
              Originally posted by BillyBoxing
              Hater, lol, you sound like a Justin Bieber fangirl bro.


              You're a pathetic poster. So I just wanted to call you out on your own bullshts.

              Yeah Mexico the best in boxing, if it can make you feel better I'm cool with that.

              Black fighters and mexicans are the better, historically and actually.

              But yeah, they are not the best if it can make you feel better i'm cool with that

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              • BillyBoxing
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                #67
                Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
                Black fighters and mexicans are the better, historically and actually.

                But yeah, they are not the best if it can make you feel better i'm cool with that
                What's the point about that statement?

                I thought we were talking about Canelo so I dunno how it became a debate about which race, country is better at boxing...

                I guess you wanted to take a shot at white, euro fighters hence why I call you an unsecure poster.

                Then your statement is pretty debatable.

                There has never been a Mexican HW champ in history. Nelo is the first Mexican hall of famer caliber fighter over 154 lbs. So I dunno if it tells a lot about any kind of domination.

                The too last lineal champ at HW klit and fury are Europeans.

                I'm not sure why your Mexican tontito a.ss brought up black boxers.

                I think actually there are great fighters from everywhere, Mexican, euro, black us, Asia with Inoue PAC Wich makes of our sport a great one.

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                • Mexican_Puppet
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                  What's the point about that statement?

                  I thought we were talking about Canelo so I dunno how it became a debate about which race, country is better at boxing...

                  I guess you wanted to take a shot at white, euro fighters hence why I call you an unsecure poster.

                  Then your statement is pretty debatable.

                  There has never been a Mexican HW champ in history. Nelo is the first Mexican hall of famer caliber fighter over 154 lbs. So I dunno if it tells a lot about any kind of domination.

                  The too last lineal champ at HW klit and fury are Europeans.

                  I'm not sure why your Mexican tontito a.ss brought up black boxers.

                  I think actually there are great fighters from everywhere, Mexican, euro, black us, Asia with Inoue PAC Wich makes of our sport a great one.
                  You are mad because I said that, man, It's the fu.ckin reality.


                  This is boxing, not a weight contest, the weight does not matter, it's boxing, and Mexico has champions in all the weight classes, except HW and Cruiserweight, but in all the division we have champions.


                  And the best boxing, talking about skills, is in the range of 112-160.

                  The best two fighters of the last 2 decades are shorter men like Pacquiao and Floyd.


                  Ricardo Lopez had a super talent, much better than most of Heavy Weight champions in the history...


                  You don't know sh.it about this... it's about boxing, not weight.

                  And Mexico is on the top of this sport, MX and USA, and the best fighters of Eeaster Europe are sons of mexicans: Salido won the fight against Loma and Canelo won the rematch against GGG

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                  • BillyBoxing
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
                    You are mad because I said that, man, It's the fu.ckin reality.


                    This is boxing, not a weight contest, the weight does not matter, it's boxing, and Mexico has champions in all the weight classes, except HW and Cruiserweight, but in all the division we have champions.


                    And the best boxing, talking about skills, is in the range of 112-160.

                    The best two fighters of the last 2 decades are shorter men like Pacquiao and Floyd.


                    Ricardo Lopez had a super talent, much better than most of Heavy Weight champions in the history...


                    You don't know sh.it about this... it's about boxing, not weight.

                    And Mexico is on the top of this sport, MX and USA, and the best fighters of Eeaster Europe are sons of mexicans: Salido won the fight against Loma and Canelo won the rematch against GGG

                    Yeah agreed Manny and Floyd, no Mexicans loool

                    So before it was, we run boxing, after from 112 to 160 doe, hmh we run boxing with black fighters lololol

                    I have a great news for you.
                    You don't rep black fighters and they don't rep you more than others you coward. Don't hide behind them.

                    Europeans fighters are at the top of the sport too. If you doubt about it, see the fury, gwodzyk and Loma performances too this month.
                    And they were not in a bum fight.

                    Do salidoe and Canelo share also the same ped supplier? Lol

                    I'm not denying Mexico boxing quality, I don't need to downplay other continents, people because I somehow feel triggered by them doing good too.

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                    • Mexican_Puppet
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                      Europeans fighters also are at the top of the sport. If not, check Loma, Fury and gwodzyk performances of this month.


                      3 are on most p4p lists, only one mexican Canelo who should not even be there being suspended this year. Mikey is American.
                      That's why you hide behind black fighters and have to add them into your argument.

                      I'm not here to win an argument but just to expose you as the highly and bad poster you are.

                      Just before it was we run boxing, then we run boxing with black fighters, now boxing from 112-160 doe loool

                      Yeah salidoe and Canelo, they also share in common to be proven ped cheats....

                      I guess your nationalism is stronger than your morality.
                      García is mexican, he is trained by a mexican , Eduardo García, his father, was a mexican amateur.

                      Hahahaha f.uck.

                      Only 3 : GGG, Loma and Usyk, Fury is not fu.cking a P4P fighter . He is not on the top-5.

                      And GGG and Lomachenko know what means a L in pro boxing against mexicans.

                      And you are talking about a continent, a lot of countries, England, Ucraine, Kazajistán, and more.

                      In talking about one country: México.

                      And i don't need nothing, México and USA actually and historically are the best in boxing, period.

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