Comments Thread For: Joshua Throws Water at Tyson Fury's Lineal Champion Claim

[Noelanthony]

Doesnt he sometimes carry a 4th or 5th garbage belt too sometimes?

This is all getting confusing. Tyson Fury is the lineal champion which is great for everyone that cares . Wilder is the WBC champion although people feel Fury should be the rightful owner but what is not confusing is that AJ holds all the other belts. Probably has Gucci belts and Louis Vuitton belts if that interests you too.

So if you want to put Fury at the top because he is lineal or Deontay because he has one belt and he has power or Joshua 3rd because he has the most belts and he is yet to fight Wilder and Fury that’s cool

[allen23]

I have seen all of those guys fight, not just against Joshua but against other opponents.

Breazeale and Parker have nothing to do with Matchroom, Eddie Hearn or Sky. The only connection is that they have all fought and lost against Anthony Joshua. So, no, I don't believe everything they say, does that answer your condescending question adequately? I would pick Hearn's word over that of Finkel or Warren, any day of the week though. That's my own personal preference.

I appreciate a lot of boxers outside of the UK. Hence why I mentioned Breazeale. Unfortunately, 3 of the top 4 TBRB rated HW's are 'English' so do you blame UK fans for not rating other fighters outside of the UK?

considering were talking about one of the most corrupt sports in the world i dont think the 'rankings' is an honest assessment of the quality of the fighters. you basically named most of Aj's previous opponents and deemed them better then Ortiz even tho Joshua avoided Ortiz. the eyeball test shows ortiz is the best technician in the heavyweight division (apart from a healthy fury) so comparing parker and breazeale to ortiz is just silly.

[vitali1999]

Unification trumps mandatory.

To the WBC. Not in my eyes. A strip Donald Trumps a unification

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Joshua is just gutted that he's now #3.

I like how he sends tweets to Fury saying stuff like "Get fit you fat ****" then when Fury gets fit, AJ wants nothing to do with him lol.

Stick to fighting plumbers AJ, i'll stick to watching Fury & Wilder.

[Noelanthony]

lad breazeale, parker and whyte are all limited boxers compared to ortiz, do u buy into everything that comes out of eddie hearn and sky sports? uk heavyweight fans just dont appreciate boxers outside the uk ortiz even in his 40's would smash those guys

Yep the same way he smashed Kauffman , Malik Scott and Dave Allen. I bought into the Hype about Ortiz being the bogeyman from you Americans and I went to watch him live. What a disappointment. However , I agree he is a good boxer but so what. Wilder can’t box for S#hit but he is doing ok. If Kauffman can stay in there for 12 rounds even though Ortiz had everything his own way so can the likes of Whyte and Joyce that offer more fire power than Kauffman

[Cauliflower ear]

This guy has killed his brain cells and should be banned from this site. Breazeale have you watched the guy I've seen 4 of his fights he's atrocious he's not beating Wilder Ortiz I doubt he even beats chisora or Joseph. Whyte would get killed by wilder and definitely ortiz. Ortiz even at his old age is the 4th best heavyweight behind Wilder fury and Aj (no specific order). Aj I think could beat fury fury can beat Wilder and Wilder can beat AJ styles makes fights. It's like saying whom would you rather have in there prime Lionel Messi Christian's Ronaldo or neymar all three are great if not amazing just up to who you like most. Wilder should rematch fury AJ should fight Ortiz that would be a great test for both and toss up fights for both near 50/50

Ortiz might beat Whyte...personally I think Ortiz can't fight at any real pace or intensity anymore, Whyte would draw him into a scrap and we saw with Wilder he can gas in a fight that was in the most, slow paced. If it was a Jab fest Ortiz would be a favourite, but it wouldn't be...I think Whyte would maul him and get a result.

Wilder would struggle with Whyte , Wilder can't take getting hit, you can see his brain scramble and his legs stiffen everytime anybody lands on him with anything of note...that's why they've moved him like molasses in winter. Hell...Fury had Wilder weary with a flicking jab...unless Wilder gets Whyte out of there Whyte beats him up.


Ortiz has no profile in the UK...he don't sell. If I was Matchroom I'd actually fight Ortiz in the US. A big fight at Wembley first vs who ever wants the fight Wilder or Fury...If that's not possible probably Whyte , despite what the Wilder cheerleaders chant...Whyte is more deserving a AJ fight than anyone besides the two fighters mentioned, more so than Ortiz who if your being objective has nothing but a valiant loss to the 3rd best heavyweight(consensus) to his name. Anyway I digress, If AJ was to fight Ortiz its unlikely to happen in the UK, maybe in the US if and when AJ fights there.

Just opinion.

[allen23]

Yep the same way he smashed Kauffman , Malik Scott and Dave Allen. I bought into the Hype about Ortiz being the bogeyman from you Americans and I went to watch him live. What a disappointment. However , I agree he is a good boxer but so what. Wilder can’t box for S#hit but he is doing ok. If Kauffman can stay in there for 12 rounds even though Ortiz had everything his own way so can the likes of Whyte and Joyce that offer more fire power than Kauffman

im not america. and a good technician beats a good puncher 9/10

[EasternEuroFan]

AJ is embarrassed because Fury said AJ picked his old belts out of the bin

[EasternEuroFan]

The real test comes when AJ/Hearn put on their next show. If they fight someone like Dillian Whyte or Michael Hunter in April, no way they do near 80,000 tickets again, and likely will be dissent in the crowd. Hearn will be booed heavier than ever at any AJ event. The tide is definitely turning, can see it in Hearn's demeanour during interviews lately. He's been knocked down a peg or two for sure, the arrogant twot.

It is definitely turning.

When AJ made social media posts really, he just gets replies from loads of (probably converted) Fury fans haha

It'll be interesting to see how AJ's show does as you said, if it's not a really top opponent. Ticket sales for his fights have been getting slower and slower. Povetkin didn't even sell out. That's the problem when almost all your fans are casuals, once the novelty wears off, you go downhill quite quickly in terms of popularity.

[fullers]

Aj s keen to fight now the rematch is going to happen. He wasn't as keen to fight when he had an offer to fight on the table. Stick to your rematch against whyte who you already beat. Casual fans might watch still. As for "what more do I have to do to prove I'm champion" it's simple, do what wilder and fury did, they stepped up to fight. Fury did it after two fights back from two year absence