TBRB moves Fury ahead of Wilder in their rankings.

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  • jglvz256
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    #51
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    That is the problem with your list. You don't have any standards.
    So what standards should I use? Just make up numbers and unnamed sources like you do? Tell me what is wrong with the list.

    Preferably

    In

    The

    ****ing

    Thread

    ^^

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      #52
      rightfully so....

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        #53
        Originally posted by RetroSpeed05
        TBRB rankings are weird they have Mikey lineal at 140 wtf?
        He is lineal at 140

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          #54
          Originally posted by jglvz256
          So what standards should I use?
          Major publications that had someone on press row scoring the fight.

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            #55
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
            Major publications that had someone on press row scoring the fight.
            Fine. Tell me in the thread who should be disqualified and why. Maybe you might even recall some of the 60% of major publications ringside that you keep referencing.

            I don't see why the big controversy about making the thread, there's nearly always a roundup thread of media and pro-boxer scores on a big fight.

            But somehow this time it's a big problem...

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              #56
              Originally posted by jglvz256
              Fine. Tell me in the thread who should be disqualified and why. Maybe you might even recall some of the 60% of major publications ringside that you keep referencing.

              I don't see why the big controversy about making the thread, there's nearly always a roundup thread of media and pro-boxer scores on a big fight.
              There shouldn't be any controversy at all. You're the one crying robbery even though your own numbers say 40% didn't think Fury won.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                Last week, this page mentioned that the Heavyweight battle of the giants, Fury-Wilder, may be fascinating. It was. “Let’s hope Fury lives up to his name,” we said. He did. He did more than that. His strategy, skill, courage, and remarkable recuperative powers gave the sport something special. In the twelfth round, Fury fought like BEOWULF after getting up from not one KO punch but two consecutive ones from the most destructive heavyweight today in Deontay Wilder.

                But boxing, being boxing, has to throw a stink-bomb into the party. Fury-Wilder was no draw. Two of the judges got it wrong and the Board acknowledges what the world does -most of us strongly believe an injustice was done to Fury. We appreciate his graceful responses and his willingness to transition into an inspiring figure.

                Isn’t it a wonder that boxing can’t even present a clear picture of the championship in its flagship division? We can. Fury was #8 and Wilder #2 when they fought to an official draw. The Board considered it a bad draw and ranked them accordingly. Fury is now #2 (though several members argued he should be #1) and Wilder is #3.

                Boxing is unable and most of its power-brokers unwilling to point to one man and say “there’s the champion,” so we will. Right now there is none. But there should be one soon because Fury is now in position to once again seize the throne he abdicated a couple years ago. Whenever there is an open throne, the #1-contender must face the #2-contender to become the champion. There is no other way.

                We advise the following

                1. Fury should put off fighting Wilder again. He already beat him and most everyone on the planet knows it. Why take a risk that was already overcome? Wilder is #3. Beating him again brings nothing that is real.

                2. So go higher. Beating Anthony Joshua, who’s in the top two with him, brings the divisional crown. Fury should challenge Joshua. Joshua should listen to Lennox Lewis and accept the challenge. Anything else is silly. The true historical crown is within reach of both. Be like Rocky III and go for it.

                3. Wilder will wait in the wings to see what happens in Joshua-Fury. Those three giants can then set up a series of matches that can very well return boxing to its former glory. English Knight vs. Irish Traveller vs. American bomber —All contesting not eye-rolling belts but The Crown of Crowns in all of sports. ***

                If you haven’t already, please take a moment to check out the updated MEMBERS TAB at the top of the page. Spread the word about who we are and what we’re doing on social media.

                Included on the 50 members strong Transnational Boxing Rankings Board are professional journalists, editors, bloggers, archivists, authors, boxing historians and analysts, sports radio hosts, trainers, and ex-fighters; but first and foremost we’re serious boxing fans who love the sport.

                None of us have compromising connections that would inhibit our mission to provide clean and authoritative weekly rankings and identify the true divisional champions in a sport that is in dire need of clarity and common sense.

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                1 Anthony Joshua
                2 Tyson Fury
                3 Deontay Wilder
                4 Dillian Whyte
                5 Luis Ortiz
                6 Alexander Povetkin
                7 Jarrell Miller
                8 Dereck Chisora
                9 Kubrat Pulev
                10 Joseph Parker
                We agree on Fury with no caveats Bobby! But... touch of irony here! You guys who always want to make sure the promoters are happy, you know...how I josh you lol... Well guess what?

                Your promoters have to make this happen. The market forces are there. Joshua is a spectacular draw, we can assume fury is no slouch in this department... I don't think any fighter is really "scared" the way people imagine them to be... In other words, and I am sort of going on when I fought, when I was scared, my tummy was twitching, etc...It never made me reluctant to fight though. And I didn't like to fight.

                Joshua likes to fight, he wants on some level to fight Fury, the promoters have to make this happen because the fans demand it. And there is no question that Fury beat Wilder. We don't need judges to even tell us that.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  What's wrong with that? He's top 15 for sure, boxrec has him 11.
                  Chisora has fought well against many of the top guys, he is willing to fight anyone and has never truly been outclassed. I agree with you on this point.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    Fury did no damage, got knocked down twice, and his face was severely marked up after the fight.

                    I had Fury ahead on my card heading into the 12th, he put on an incredible display of skill, but not sure he proved he is the better "fighter" when the fight ended in a draw and Fury was half a second away from being knocked out.
                    He certainly proved he is the better "boxer" then.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                      There shouldn't be any controversy at all. You're the one crying robbery even though your own numbers say 40% didn't think Fury won.
                      Respect your opinion but disagree for a number of reasons. First of all, on the first knock down, that was not necessarily a 10-8 round. That should be noted... Even in the last round Wilder deserves a 10-8 but Fury fought during that round as well, something that should be at least noted. But that first KD was hardly a domnant round for Wilder.

                      So if we are saying that Fury won rounds, and maybe Wilder picked up a round or so...BUT Wilder dominated Fury in two rounds considerably, that is a False Statement. If we are honest, that first KD was virtually a flash. Not even getting into target areas that are supposed to he allowed here... but that might have been considered by a keen judge as well.

                      The only other scenarios are all wins for Fury. So there is no scoring that can properly reflect this fight where Wilder gets a draw. I have always believed that scoring should reflect the fight and not be so abstract that it picks the wrong guy.

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