TBRB moves Fury ahead of Wilder in their rankings.

[N/A]

on the first knock down, that was not necessarily a 10-8 round.

99.9% of judges would score that round 10-8.

So if we are saying that Fury won rounds, and maybe Wilder picked up a round or so...BUT Wilder dominated Fury in two rounds considerably, that is a False Statement.

There were very few rounds in the entire fight where anybody dominated anything. Very few punches were landed in that fight. Fury landed 1 more punch per round than Wilder did. It was a close fight. To most observers, Fury won more rounds than Wilder did, but there were a lot of rounds with little going on that could have been scored either way. If you run the whole round and land 7 punches and I chase you the whole round and land 6 punches, it's anybody's guess who the judges will give the round to.

I have always believed that scoring should reflect the fight and not be so abstract that it picks the wrong guy.

The draw reflects the fight. Fury slightly out landed Wilder, but Wilder scored two knockdowns. Wilder was the aggressor, but a lot of the aggression wasn't effective. Wilder landed the bigger blows, but Fury landed more blows.

You have to give almost all of the close rounds to Fury to get him a clear win.

[Citizen Koba]

They are neither clear nor consistent.

And, they are getting as bad as the Ring panel they were supposed to be better than.

Far from perfect, sure, but better than the rest IMO. What ranking org do you find the best?

[N/A]

He certainly proved he is the better "boxer" then.

He's certainly the more skilled boxer. No doubt about that. Fury is clearly the most skilled heavyweight on the planet.

But Wilder is the most powerful.

And that's what made the fight so fascinating and that's why the rematch will be even bigger.

[Citizen Koba]

Respect your opinion but disagree for a number of reasons. First of all, on the first knock down, that was not necessarily a 10-8 round. That should be noted... Even in the last round Wilder deserves a 10-8 but Fury fought during that round as well, something that should be at least noted. But that first KD was hardly a domnant round for Wilder.

So if we are saying that Fury won rounds, and maybe Wilder picked up a round or so...BUT Wilder dominated Fury in two rounds considerably, that is a False Statement. If we are honest, that first KD was virtually a flash. Not even getting into target areas that are supposed to he allowed here... but that might have been considered by a keen judge as well.

The only other scenarios are all wins for Fury. So there is no scoring that can properly reflect this fight where Wilder gets a draw. I have always believed that scoring should reflect the fight and not be so abstract that it picks the wrong guy.

This part is kind of key. It's a fight, dammit - you shouldn't need to an expert to tell you who won and judges consistently giving a different result from the mass of people who watched smacks of a kind of condescension and almost elitism which don't really wash in a populist sport. As far as I know there is no other sport that tells it's paying viewers and spectators on a regular basis that they are, in effect, too ****** too understand what they just watched.

[billeau2]

This part is kind of key. It's a fight, dammit - you shouldn't need to an expert to tell you who won and judges consistently giving a different result from the mass of people who watched smacks of a kind of condescension and almost elitism which don't really wash in a populist sport. As far as I know there is no other sport that tells it's paying viewers and spectators on a regular basis that they are, in effect, too ****** too understand what they just watched.

Well said. I don't even score fights...

[champion4ever]

I must admit, that this kind of action really disappoints me. It's not like Fury won the fight or something. He scored a draw with Wilder. The rankings should remain the same. I apologize to Tyson Fury but you don't earn points for showboating and not trying hard. You earn them by actually winning titles, championship bouts and putting your opponents on their arse.

[REDEEMER]

He's on the list because he stopped Takam. Sucks because if I remember correctly Takam was dominating the fight and just got caught. That's heavyweight boxing for you. One punch from even guys who aren't necessarily huge punchers can still end the fight.

Takam not a top 10 fighter. Breazeale hasn't lost in 2 years and is ranked top 5 in WBC he's over Chisora.

[yankees7448]

Takam not a top 10 fighter. Breazeale hasn't lost in 2 years and is ranked top 5 in WBC he's over Chisora.

You're right, Breazeale is undefeated in 2 years. But that accounts for a whopping 2 fights. His next fight will be his first in 2018. Regarding Takam I think his quality of opposition must be taken into account as well. His two losses before the Chisora fight were to Joseph Parker and as a last minute replacement in a fight against Anthony Joshua.

[REDEEMER]

You're right, Breazeale is undefeated in 2 years. But that accounts for a whopping 2 fights. His next fight will be his first in 2018. Regarding Takam I think his quality of opposition must be taken into account as well. His two losses before the Chisora fight were to Joseph Parker and as a last minute replacement in a fight against Anthony Joshua.

Breazeale wasn't a replacement for Joshua. A fighter shouldn't be punished if he's a mandatory and gets jerked around.

[yankees7448]

Breazeale wasn't a replacement for Joshua. A fighter shouldn't be punished if he's a mandatory and gets jerked around.

He shouldn't sit on his a$$ and should be punished for that.