Comments Thread For: Wilder: It's Only Right To Give Fury Rematch As Soon As Possible

[PunchyPotorff]

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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
You must not be aware of the numbers a Fury fight of this level would bring to a stadium in England. Try to keep up. It's a very real scenario a UK rematch of these two.

Try to keep up? LOL, no trust me, I'm keeping up just fine.

You certainly aren't keeping up if you think Fury isn't a bigger draw in England. This one Saturday didn't even quite sell out the arena in Vegas. Whereas in England a stadium would be at or near capacity. Have your own opinion if you want, but you cannot try to invent your own facts.

[KTFOKING]

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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
You must not be aware of the numbers a Fury fight of this level would bring to a stadium in England. Try to keep up. It's a very real scenario a UK rematch of these two.



You certainly aren't keeping up if you think Fury isn't a bigger draw in England. This one Saturday didn't even quite sell out the arena in Vegas. Whereas in England a stadium would be at or near capacity. Have your own opinion if you want, but you cannot try to invent your own facts.

What are you babbling about? Didn't quite sell out yet I bet it still did or got close to a $5 million gate. The rematch in Vegas will double the gate as well as double the buy rate. To me it does more than double the buy rate but for argument's sake we will go with that. Add up the UK buys at 4 am and I'm sorry, the rematch doesn't generate more money in the UK.

[Noelanthony]

If I'm Fury, I take the Joshua fight now! Fury was 2 seconds from self-destruction! If he loses to Wilder in the rematch, he may never get this chance again! Fury and Joshua are the HOTTEST names in the division right now! London is the HOTTEST location in HW boxing right now!

Of course, money is a major factor! The deal would have to be 50/50 split of the total pie! And that 50% has to surpass what he made fighting Wilder! If not, I fight Wilder again, because Wilder is probably easier to beat than Joshua, because you've already seen what Wilder has! Plus, if Fury takes that strap from Wilder, especially in the UK, then he can't get less than 50% of the pie! "If it aint making dollars, then it doesn't make sense!"

Damn, I never knew I will see this day where a Wilder fan is being brutally honest. I am impressed. It only took 589 posts of me pestering you. You are a good man. Kiss your girlfriend softly on the cheek and tell her I now have a friend in London. If any of her friends are around slap them on the arse and blame me of course

[BoxOfficer]

Wrong. D.Wilder can walk away from Fury if he wants to & secure other fights to defend his belt. Don't be so salty from a close fight.

Of course, he can walk away but he would be walking away with a stigma. Most people thought he lost the fight, and he would have to live with that forever. You can hardly find any article about the fight without the "controversial" tag-along. That speaks volume. I think he needs Fury so as to redeem himself. But of course, like you said, he can walk away. It is entirely up to him.

[BoxOfficer]

Wilder doesn¡¯t have to do anything. That¡¯s why rematch clauses only go to the champ. The reason people dispute decisions with the sanctioning body (like Fury¡¯s camp did) is to get a rematch ordered. Lots of fighters would just take their belt and move on. Happens all the time, more often in lower weight classes where they can move up in weight to avoid it, but heavyweights can do it by just taking mandatories and ignoring the challenger.

And the fans would sit there with their fingers in their ears screaming ¡°a side can do whatever! A side can do whatever!¡±

Hell, a more cowardly fighter would want Fury/AJ next so he can fight the winner instead of wanting to fight both.

So yes, I think wilder deserves a ton of credit for this.

He wants to save face, that's why he wants the rematch. The big question remains: can he really save face when the time comes? He will have a better answer to this question after all the post-fight buzz dies down.

[PunchyPotorff]

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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff
You must not be aware of the numbers a Fury fight of this level would bring to a stadium in England. Try to keep up. It's a very real scenario a UK rematch of these two.

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Originally Posted by KTFOKING
Try to keep up? LOL, no trust me, I'm keeping up just fine.

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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff
You certainly aren't keeping up if you think Fury isn't a bigger draw in England. This one Saturday didn't even quite sell out the arena in Vegas. Whereas in England a stadium would be at or near capacity. Have your own opinion if you want, but you cannot try to invent your own facts.

What are you babbling about? Didn't quite sell out yet I bet it still did or got close to a $5 million gate. The rematch in Vegas will double the gate as well as double the buy rate. To me it does more than double the buy rate but for argument's sake we will go with that. Add up the UK buys at 4 am and I'm sorry, the rematch doesn't generate more money in the UK.

5 mil gate isn't JACK compared to an England gate you bonehead. And a Vegas rematch will not come even CLOSE to an England gate. Boxing is WAY more popular in the UK and Europe than it is in the U.S. currently. Geez, stop wasting people's time with your ridiculously lame comments.

[Boxing-1013]

Yeah, I don’t get it. People say he doesn’t want to fight the best...but he gives back to back voluntaries to Ortiz and Fury, and now is talking about giving Dom step aside money to give another voluntary to Tyson Fury.

And this is in a year where it’s okay to scream “MANDATORY DEFENSE DOE!!” To avoid good competition.

Yeah I personally think he has been carefully managed up to the Ortiz fight, but a lot of guys are carefully managed. And now that he is ready I feel like he, as you pointed out, is taking on challengers that a lot of others would avoid. I give him props as a fighter and he has made me into somewhat of a fan. Hope he gets good money in the Joshua fight and knocks AJ out.

[Boxing-1013]

Oh Sweet Mother of Holiness....

Open up THAT rusty can of worms again, shall we???



I can only hope for the rebuttals. It is always great reading.

Lol I really don't even like re-hashing it...I only make the comment because it is bizarre to scroll through a comment section and see anyone still saying Ward won that fight or that it was even close...I mean come on we all know what we saw that night. I respect Ward for taking that fight but he got his ass whipped the first 6 rounds and the last 6 were fairly even.

[KTFOKING]

Quote:
Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff
You must not be aware of the numbers a Fury fight of this level would bring to a stadium in England. Try to keep up. It's a very real scenario a UK rematch of these two.

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Originally Posted by KTFOKING
Try to keep up? LOL, no trust me, I'm keeping up just fine.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff
You certainly aren't keeping up if you think Fury isn't a bigger draw in England. This one Saturday didn't even quite sell out the arena in Vegas. Whereas in England a stadium would be at or near capacity. Have your own opinion if you want, but you cannot try to invent your own facts.



5 mil gate isn't JACK compared to an England gate you bonehead. And a Vegas rematch will not come even CLOSE to an England gate. Boxing is WAY more popular in the UK and Europe than it is in the U.S. currently. Geez, stop wasting people's time with your ridiculously lame comments.

$5 million gate isn't jack? Oh really? And I said it likely does double that in Vegas for the rematch. So yeah, a $10 million gate is certainly comparable to the UK stadium gates. I believe Wlad/Joshua did $12 million.

Is boxing more popular in the UK than the US? Absolutely, but the US PPV money>>>>>>>>UK PPV money.

My comments are far from lame. Just seems like you have no rationale at all.

[Noelanthony]

Yeah I personally think he has been carefully managed up to the Ortiz fight, but a lot of guys are carefully managed. And now that he is ready I feel like he, as you pointed out, taking out challengers that a lot of others would avoid. I give him props as a fighter and he has made me into somewhat of a fan. Hope he gets good money in the Joshua fight and knocks AJ out.

He will get what he deserves . Well to be perfectly honest he will be getting more than he deserves. He shouldn’t be coming to the negotiation table with no WBC belt ,just his mouth and cornrows. Luckily for him he must had spoke it and received a gift decision. Trust me when I tell you this if Joshua gets hit by that telegraphed right hand he doesn’t deserve to be the undisputed. Wilder is a one trick pony. With thinner legs obviously