Is Wilder the most unique HW in history?

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He's an embarrassment to the sport. He makes it appear that any skill less guy with a big punch can walk in off the street and win a title.

If any skill less guy could do it, someone would have beaten him by now.

The fact that he's possibly the biggest puncher in the history of our planet may have something to do with why he's been so successful with so little skill and why others haven't been able to do the same.

[Robbie Barrett]

If any skill less guy could do it, someone would have beaten him by now.

The fact that he's possibly the biggest puncher in the history of our planet may have something to do with why he's been so successful with so little skill and why others haven't been able to do the same.

Someone just did beat him.

[N/A]

If he can't win by KO, he wins by robbery.

The majority of ringside experts didn't have Fury winning, so where is this robbery exactly? You could complain that one card was too wide, but not sure how a draw is a "robbery" when 40% of ringside experts had the fight a draw and 20% had Wilder winning.

If only 40% of ringside experts had Fury winning and 60% didn't, a draw isn't a robbery.

[N/A]

Someone just did beat him.

I don't see it listed on Boxrec. Are you living in an alternate universe?

[deanrw]

The majority of ringside experts didn't have Fury winning, so where is this robbery exactly? You could complain that one card was too wide, but not sure how a draw is a "robbery" when 40% of ringside experts had the fight a draw and 20% had Wilder winning.

If only 40% of ringside experts had Fury winning and 60% didn't, a draw isn't a robbery.

Who are these ringside experts you are talking about?

[deanrw]

I guarantee that Wilder is a better fighter at his core than he shows. It is just that he is so in love with his power that he throws it all out the window.


He knows the basics because he has been in the game long enough to know them, but he ignores them. In that respect he is a lot like David Lemieux. Both overthrow their punches and lose their balance on the regular. Both can easily be outboxed because they only think of the home run.

[N/A]

Who are these ringside experts you are talking about?

I spoke to nearly 30 media members on press row and about a dozen had a draw, a dozen had Fury, and the rest had Wilder.

BoxingScene's analysis of experts bore out similar percentages.

https://www.boxingscene.com/deontay-wilder-tyson-fury-boxing-insiders-weigh-on-scoring--134267

If the majority of ringside experts didn't think Fury won, how can it be a robbery?

[Ray*]

He saw the difference between his previous 40 fights and his last fight. When you move up a level at a certain stage in your career then you would witness the difference. He couldn't stop Fury and you saw the shock in his face, if those were the previous no-hopers that he fought on sunday morning then it would have been over in the 6/7th round.

[Ray*]

I guarantee that Wilder is a better fighter at his core than he shows. It is just that he is so in love with his power that he throws it all out the window.


He knows the basics because he has been in the game long enough to know them, but he ignores them. In that respect he is a lot like David Lemieux. Both overthrow their punches and lose their balance on the regular. Both can easily be outboxed because they only think of the home run.

I have been saying this for ages. He is a better technician IMHO, he has just left the basics behind due to falling in love with his power.

The last fighter that i could remember doing this was Prince Naz, who became so obsess with his power that he forgot/abandon all the basic things that got him there.

[Marchegiano]

LOL I wrote that Marciano was a technical nightmare before I read your post. Great breakdown man..

A video of Marciano. SO untechnical yet brutal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6Qv4_oKx6U

I appreciate it bud.