Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz: If Wilder Jumps on Fury Early, It Could Be a Quick Night

[alexguiness]

However, that was more than three years ago when Tyson was a lot younger and lighter than he is today. Since that time he has not been tested, hit or pushed to the limits by any of his set up opponents.

How those performances prepared him for a Deontay Wilder fight, I will never understand. Personally, I think the fight is happening too soon. I don't think Fury is quite ready or capable of competing or defeating Wilder at this time.

He needs to be more active and add more fights under his belt in order to work on his boxing conditioning before challenging a dangerous champion like Deontay Wilder.

You could easily be right on the inactivity point.

I think Fury weighed 240ish against Klit, so he was pretty heavy then and looked totally comfortable for 12 rounds in a large ring.

[champion4ever]

The truth is Fury has never truly faced live competition. Klitschko was a zombie in that fight! He was no where near even the fighter who got knocked out by Corrie Sanders.
I swear still to this day that something was dramatically off in the fight with Klitschko vs Fury!
I understand that Fury is pretty good defensively but a jab is set up to be a range finder and at worse score some points to keep your opponent honest yet Klitschko a guy with one of the best jabs in the business didn't even throw 5 through 5 rounds?? �� I just don't buy it.
Either way besides that fight who has Fury fought and beat with any type of recognition.
Granted Wilder doesn't have a elite pedigree either but knocking out every opponent you have ever faced with 39 fighters is not a easy task either.
I think Wilder takes Fury out in the 2nd half of the fight or when he makes a solid connection.

You are spot on! So true.

[cameltoe]

You could literally say this about any heavyweight fight.

[LoadedWraps]

Ortiz isn't that good or rather was overated. You don't fancy your chances against Wilder, so don't ask for a rematch from him.
If Wilder had of jumped on you hed have got you out fast but don't confuse yourself with fury.

I still rate him highly and rarely drop the stock of a fighter after a single loss.

I am surprised that Ortiz isn't siding with the more technical fighter here, I'd expect defensive minded and slick fighters to back Fury as they use similar tactics to succeed.

[LoadedWraps]

The truth is Fury has never truly faced live competition. Klitschko was a zombie in that fight! He was no where near even the fighter who got knocked out by Corrie Sanders.
I swear still to this day that something was dramatically off in the fight with Klitschko vs Fury!
I understand that Fury is pretty good defensively but a jab is set up to be a range finder and at worse score some points to keep your opponent honest yet Klitschko a guy with one of the best jabs in the business didn't even throw 5 through 5 rounds?? 🤔 I just don't buy it.
Either way besides that fight who has Fury fought and beat with any type of recognition.
Granted Wilder doesn't have a elite pedigree either but knocking out every opponent you have ever faced with 39 fighters is not a easy task either.
I think Wilder takes Fury out in the 2nd half of the fight or when he makes a solid connection.

I love posts like this, tells me how little you know about the sport. Especially with this jab comment you have. You can do way more with a jab, and any punch than simply "find range and at worse score some points".

Wlad had a problem alright: Tyson "2 fast" Fury.

Pay attention tonight, you will learn something.

[nick_viking]

You could easily be right on the inactivity point.

I think Fury weighed 240ish against Klit, so he was pretty heavy then and looked totally comfortable for 12 rounds in a large ring.

He weighed in at 247 I think, but disputed it, saying the scales had been meddled with and he was in fact 10lbs heavier!

[nick_viking]

The truth is Fury has never truly faced live competition. Klitschko was a zombie in that fight! He was no where near even the fighter who got knocked out by Corrie Sanders.
I swear still to this day that something was dramatically off in the fight with Klitschko vs Fury!
I understand that Fury is pretty good defensively but a jab is set up to be a range finder and at worse score some points to keep your opponent honest yet Klitschko a guy with one of the best jabs in the business didn't even throw 5 through 5 rounds?? 🤔 I just don't buy it.
Either way besides that fight who has Fury fought and beat with any type of recognition.
Granted Wilder doesn't have a elite pedigree either but knocking out every opponent you have ever faced with 39 fighters is not a easy task either.
I think Wilder takes Fury out in the 2nd half of the fight or when he makes a solid connection.

Two wins over Chisora are the next best on Fury’s resume. In the second fight he really did give Del a beating too.

If you look at at Tyson’s comments before the Wlad fight, his whole plan was to take away Klitschko’s Jab, so he couldn’t get his right hand off. He laid out a game plan then completely achieved it. Terrible fight, but props to Fury for spoiling Wlad’s usual style.

[champion4ever]

You could easily be right on the inactivity point.

I think Fury weighed 240ish against Klit, so he was pretty heavy then and looked totally comfortable for 12 rounds in a large ring.

You are absolutely correct. Yeah, he was heavy then. He weighed 247 lbs for that bout. However, that was before he had a two and a half year breakdown and ballooned up to 400 lbs. Moreover, he was an active fighter, when he challenged Klitschko for his heavyweight crown too.

[redmyth79]

I love posts like this, tells me how little you know about the sport. Especially with this jab comment you have. You can do way more with a jab, and any punch than simply "find range and at worse score some points".

Wlad had a problem alright: Tyson "2 fast" Fury.

Pay attention tonight, you will learn something.

Ok I will be glad to see. And know little about the sport.
I forgot more about boxing then you will ever know!
I'm not on here bashing Fury I simply stated he has truly fought nobody besides Klitschko which Klitschko himself was not even at that fight.
Funny thing about Klitschko is he tried and tried to get Fury back in the ring so much so that Fury had a mental breakdown!! LMAO.
And he only came out of retirement when Klitschko retired!
Klitschko would smoke Fury in a rematch. Even at 42.
Fury might prove just how good he is tonight weather it's good or bad we will find out soon enough.
Wilder by no means is a great boxer because clearly he is not. He has range and power that are his key attributes. Fury is definitely the better boxer between the two but the question will be can he avoid getting cracked and if he can't which I'm sure Wilder will land some leather can Fury hold up to Wilder's power?
A prime Klitschko beats all top current heavyweights. Even this version of Klitschko retired he could probably win a rematch with AJ and would beat both guys tonight.
I think AJ is the best current heavyweight but his chin is a major problem. If Wilder lands like Klitschko did it's night night.
I am ready for this match tonight. It will help clear up the division and it also will tell us just how good both are being Wilder and Fury.

[mathed]

I wonder what happens if Fury makes this ugly by constantly tying up and putting all his weight on Wilder? Not a fan friendly approach but at 212, it’s going to be hard to contend with that for any extended time.