Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz: If Wilder Jumps on Fury Early, It Could Be a Quick Night

[EasternEuroFan]

You guys are deluding yourselves into believing that Tyson Fury can move, run out the clock and not get hit for twelve rounds without fatiguing and tiring himself out down the stretch at 256 lbs.

He is too heavy to do that. Besides, that strategy expends a lot of energy also. Wilder will be chasing him all night long just to land and touch some part of his body in order to test Fury's stamina and conditioning. And as that old saying goes, "Once the body goes, then so does the head.

Andre Ward can attest that by his slowing down the "Krusher" with body shots and subsequently finishing him off with a crushing pull counter right hand to the head.

Fury has never gassed, he has/had a very good engine. Actually although he uses a lot of movement, he's quite economical at the same time.

This myth that Wilder ends every fight as soon as he lands is laughable. He can of course, but if that was the case, every fight he's had would have been over in a few rounds max. If Wilder and his fans are banking on being able to find one shot and that's it, that sounds like a rookie mistake.

Wilder might need to find the target a lot more than once, which isn't easy against Fury.

I think Wilder is rightfully the favourite when you look at the big picture. But i hope he's much smarter than his fans are. If you go in against Fury just looking for a big shot, he will read you like a book.

I'm sure Wilder's trainer has a better plan than that though, he should have anyway.

You can't use Andre Ward as an example. He is one of the most intelligent and best fighters of the modern era. I don't think Wilder has the IQ to put real smart work in over a sustained period and rounds. He will always be looking for the big shot.

[DougalDylan]

If Wilder loses Ortiz isn't top 10 he has nothing

This guy is turning into a joke, always sucking off wilder. He better be careful hyping him up too much cause if wilder loses then wtf is ortizs career going to look like?

[Zaryu]

Maybe Ortiz should tone it down with giving Wilder so much credit, it seems a crowd east of the Atlantic is getting bothered by it.

[alexguiness]

You guys are deluding yourselves into believing that Tyson Fury can move, run out the clock and not get hit for twelve rounds without fatiguing and tiring himself out down the stretch at 256 lbs.

He is too heavy to do that. Besides, that strategy expends a lot of energy also. Wilder will be chasing him all night long just to land and touch some part of his body in order to test Fury's stamina and conditioning. And as that old saying goes, "Once the body goes, then so does the head.

Andre Ward can attest that by his slowing down the "Krusher" with body shots and subsequently finishing him off with a crushing pull counter right hand to the head.

At some point Fury is going to have take some risks because his legs won't allow him to move for 12 rounds. Then the firefight will break out.

He did exactly that against Klit.

Wilder is giving up 40Ibs, in a clinch Fury can drain him by leaning all over him.

Also Fury is pretty good at finding the body, whereas Wilder is a straight up headhunter.

Fury may not look athletic, but his is very smart with his output over any given distance. He can also regroup in the clinch, Wilder won't have that option.

[DuckAdonis]

That would suck...I want a good fight that at least goes a couple rounds

[IMDAZED]

It's amazing how Ortiz is wilder's lieutenant. Sucking his cork like whore.

Trying to talk his way into another title fight. I won't be surprised if kauffman get him off there.

This is how certain posters walk through life. By reading headlines.

[champion4ever]

Fury has never gassed, he has/had a very good engine. Actually although he uses a lot of movement, he's quite economical at the same time.

This myth that Wilder ends every fight as soon as he lands is laughable. He can of course, but if that was the case, every fight he's had would have been over in a few rounds max. If Wilder and his fans are banking on being able to find one shot and that's it, that sounds like a rookie mistake.

Wilder might need to find the target a lot more than once, which isn't easy against Fury.

I think Wilder is rightfully the favourite when you look at the big picture. But i hope he's much smarter than his fans are. If you go in against Fury just looking for a big shot, he will read you like a book.

I'm sure Wilder's trainer has a better plan than that though, he should have anyway.

You can't use Andre Ward as an example. He is one of the most intelligent and best fighters of the modern era. I don't think Wilder has the IQ to put real smart work in over a sustained period and rounds. He will always be looking for the big shot.

You have totally misconstrued my point. All I am saying is, that Wilder will systematically break Fury down by fighting at much higher and faster pace than usual by testing him, hitting him and pushing him to his limit with a barrage of punches and not just single punches.

Wilder will grind him down to the point of where a firefight will break out at short range, just in order for Fury to survive and last the distance. I say that because I don't believe Tyson Fury has the same legs he once had three years ago against Wladimir Klitschko.

[champion4ever]

He did exactly that against Klit.

Wilder is giving up 40Ibs, in a clinch Fury can drain him by leaning all over him.

Also Fury is pretty good at finding the body, whereas Wilder is a straight up headhunter.

Fury may not look athletic, but his is very smart with his output over any given distance. He can also regroup in the clinch, Wilder won't have that option.

However, that was more than three years ago when Tyson was a lot younger and lighter than he is today. Since that time he has not been tested, hit or pushed to the limits by any of his set up opponents.

How those performances prepared him for a Deontay Wilder fight, I will never understand. Personally, I think the fight is happening too soon. I don't think Fury is quite ready or capable of competing or defeating Wilder at this time.

He needs to be more active and add more fights under his belt in order to work on his boxing conditioning before challenging a dangerous champion like Deontay Wilder.

[Noelanthony]

Tyson has done a tremendous nob to promote this fight to this level. It's time to cash out. It's a win-win for both parties.

Selling your 0 for a career pay after a long absence seems a genius business idea.

Not only that if he puts in a gallant performance and makes Deontay, sorry I mean the copper bomber look like a clown. Which to be honest isn’t that difficult, he could come again

[redmyth79]

I agree with Ortiz. Tyson hasn't fought live competition in over two and a half years. So you know he has to be a bit rusty and lacking the proper timing and conditioning. Also, one must ask themselves when was the last time that Tyson Fury was hit consistently by a hard puncher as Deontay Wilder with ten ounce gloves on? The answer is never.

The truth is Fury has never truly faced live competition. Klitschko was a zombie in that fight! He was no where near even the fighter who got knocked out by Corrie Sanders.
I swear still to this day that something was dramatically off in the fight with Klitschko vs Fury!
I understand that Fury is pretty good defensively but a jab is set up to be a range finder and at worse score some points to keep your opponent honest yet Klitschko a guy with one of the best jabs in the business didn't even throw 5 through 5 rounds?? 🤔 I just don't buy it.
Either way besides that fight who has Fury fought and beat with any type of recognition.
Granted Wilder doesn't have a elite pedigree either but knocking out every opponent you have ever faced with 39 fighters is not a easy task either.
I think Wilder takes Fury out in the 2nd half of the fight or when he makes a solid connection.