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  • WarHagler
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    #61
    Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
    The winter was a factor, sure, but you managed to imply that the millions of unprepared conscript troops and the massive mobilisation of the civilian population were not the primary reason the ****s failed to reach their objectives, as planned, before the start of winter. I know the passage of time and geographical seperation makes things seem less real, but just try to imagine 30 million deaths, man... including 12 odd million combat troops. In my world those people deserve a little respect, as do all the service men and women who died stopping the ****s... it's like you're saying their sacrifices were irrelevant cos the winter stopped the Wehrmarcht anyway.

    And of course, hindsight is a wonderful thing, but the at the time of the Molotov pact the Soviets were in literally no state to fight a war and Stalin needed more time to prepare, especially in light of the fact that the British and French (which was where they turned first) were looking in no hurry to enter into a pact with the Soviets. It wasn't a matter of 'trusting' the ****s (Stalin was a paranoid egomanic and pathologically trusted people only to act in their own self interest anyway) but ******** to buy time.
    The thing about imply is that you took it that way I was only summarizing when I talked about the Russian winters . I know that russians put up a hell of a fight I know many died protecting their country , but idiotcy of the **** regime and the harshness of the Russian winter are some still sizable factors .
    I know about the pact, even then I wouldn't trust that Hitler guy he seems like a bad egg.

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    • Split Decision
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      #62
      Originally posted by Boxing Goat
      Nope. Normandy invasion. Look it up. If that didn't thin out the rest of the German army, they would have just steam rolled you and you wouldn't have to say thanks.
      And you never saved the US from anything. In fact, a fraction of us made you piss off long before the world wars. Thats why brits are bitter still lol
      how would they have done that ?

      do u know how hard it would be to invade a island like britain ?

      a lot harder than a revolting france that had **** for neighbours thats for sure

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      • Citizen Koba
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        #63
        Originally posted by WarHagler
        I never claimed we won the war its you idiots who keep assuming since I'm American that I think we won it , with is really shallow on your end by the way . And yes America did come late in the war that was because "read this part slowly please"they didn't have no dog in that European bloodbath .Even then they help out Britain with support and supplies .Even then I'm not the one who said we saved your arse "even though we did help"it was the cat I was para phrasing .

        https://www.abroadintheyard.com/did-...ns-ass-in-ww2/
        Apologies then, man... It was the combined implication that both the US 'saved' Britain singlehandedly and that the Russian winter was the primary cause of the Red Army's victory in the East. I wasn't making assumptions about your beliefs merely addressing two specific points I felt it important to correct. Like I say WWIi was truly a joint effort and without any of the key players at critical times the outcome may have been far different. In 1941 for instance deliveries of US material were relatively miniscule, but at that time the war in the East was teetering on a knife edge - who is to say that that one extra shipment didn't swing it one way or another. All I was saying is that no individual country can take the credit for the outcome of the war, but if you didn't say that I can only apologise.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Boxing Goat
          Nope. Normandy invasion. Look it up. If that didn't thin out the rest of the German army, they would have just steam rolled you and you wouldn't have to say thanks.
          And you never saved the US from anything. In fact, a fraction of us made you piss off long before the world wars. Thats why brits are bitter still lol
          Huh? No. The Normandy invasion was of course an important step in the defeat of **** Germany and in determining the political landscape of Europe in the aftermath of the war, but Britain was never under any real existential threat after the bulk of the German war effort turned East in 1941. Without disrespecting the valiant efforts of the international forces who participated in the Normandy invasion what it mainly achieved was the hastening of the end of a war whose outcome was, by that time, in no real doubt. The biggest single US ontribution to the outcome of hostilities in the European theatre was the destruction of German manufacturing capacity by the US Air force and the provision of strategic materials and military hardware to the Soviets and British which began years before Normandy.

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          • WarHagler
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            #65
            Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
            Apologies then, man... It was the combined implication that both the US 'saved' Britain singlehandedly and that the Russian winter was the primary cause of the Red Army's victory in the East. I wasn't making assumptions about your beliefs merely addressing two specific points I felt it important to correct. Like I say WWIi was truly a joint effort and without any of the key players at critical times the outcome may have been far different. In 1941 for instance deliveries of US material were relatively miniscule, but at that time the war in the East was teetering on a knife edge - who is to say that that one extra shipment didn't swing it one way or another. All I was saying is that no individual country can take the credit for the outcome of the war, but if you didn't say that I can only apologise.
            Of course world war victory is a joint victory it called World War.

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            • W1LL
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              #66
              Originally posted by WarHagler
              Of course world war victory is a joint victory it called World War.
              Great Britain P4P #1 though, based on landmass.

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              • LetOutTheCage
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                #67
                Originally posted by WarHagler
                I never claimed we won the war its you idiots who keep assuming since I'm American that I think we won it , with is really shallow on your end by the way . And yes America did come late in the war that was because "read this part slowly please"they didn't have no dog in that European bloodbath .Even then they help out Britain with support and supplies .Even then I'm not the one who said we saved your arse "even though we did help"it was the cat I was para phrasing .

                https://www.abroadintheyard.com/did-...ns-ass-in-ww2/
                Where did I claim that you did, I simply pointed out who saved the British, and pointed out based on the general narrative of American media that they believe they won the war, your the idiot here making the assumption but ok keep digging your grave

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                • WarHagler
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by W1LL
                  Great Britain P4P #1 though, based on landmass.
                  Ok I'll let you have that , but we stopped Japan.

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                  • WarHagler
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
                    Where did I claim that you did, I simply pointed out who saved the British, and pointed out based on the general narrative of American media that they believe they won the war, your the idiot here making the assumption but ok keep digging your grave
                    "American media that they believe they won the war," you kinda claimed it right in this post . I guess I'll keep digging the grave .

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                    • LetOutTheCage
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by WarHagler
                      "American media that they believe they won the war," you kinda claimed it right in this post . I guess I'll keep digging the grave .
                      Are you dense? "based on the general narrative of American media that they believe they won the war" You believe that this is directly accusing you?

                      Yes continue getting emotional and digging that grave...If you jump to conclusion and get offended by generic comments then that's on you.

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