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  • Wilder-Fury how each should approach the fight

    Drop some ideas about styles each should use

    Wilder-He should pump the jab and aim most lead shots to the chest area of Fury as his head movement will make it hard to land until Wilder gets him timed and finds his rhythm. Landing to his chest will also take his wind and maybe fatigue him early.

    Fury-He should use his feet to keep turning Wilder so that he can not load up his shots and has to keep resetting. He should take advantage of Wilder's low hands and leaky defense by feinting to the body and then he will catch Wilder clean on the chin.

  • #2
    Wilder - Let his hands go, set a high pace, target the body, don't fall into fury game of a low volume chess match

    Fury - stay the hell out of range of that straight right hand, he's either inside or outside, do not stand in the pocket. On the outside southpaw jab, close up, grab hold and do whatever he can up close.

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    • #3
      wilder will need to go to the body which ive never seen him do. he needs to keep the jab pumping at all times, throw that lead left hook after round 5. hope the right hand bails him as always because he will most likely be outboxed for some rounds

      Fury: avoid the right hand, use length with jab to stay out of range, be awkward as usual and use feints. use his footwork to stay on wilders outside foot from a southpaw stance and grab when close, punch out of the clinch as he usually does to score.

      Sadly u wont have many people comment here, they are busy worried about how much money the fighters are making and downplaying the fight for their precious hearn and AJ....

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      • #4
        Wilder just need to be Wilder, disguise his jab to the body early on without following through with the right hand, do that for a few rounds to lure Fury in, then do the same thing but go over the top with the right hand later on, Fury would not be expecting it.

        Fury i think needs to close the gap and not allow Wilder to extend his right hand, he needs to tie Wilder up whenever he gets close and lean on him, he needs to make sure he doesn't punch with Wilder (He is slower than Wilder), then he needs to dance in the championship round.

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        • #5
          Fury needs to get inside to avoid being on the end of Wilder's right hand. He'll need to slip, feint and jab his way in, try to get Wilder on the ropes.

          Wilder needs to keep the fight on the outside. Get some leverage on his right hand. He will need to double and triple jab to set it up. Work Fury's flabby body to both tire him out and get him to drop his hands.

          I see Wilder catching Fury with a barrage of big punches midway into the fight. Fury will fold like a slice of baloney.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by earl-hickey View Post
            Wilder - Let his hands go, set a high pace, target the body, don't fall into fury game of a low volume chess match

            Fury - stay the hell out of range of that straight right hand, he's either inside or outside, do not stand in the pocket. On the outside southpaw jab, close up, grab hold and do whatever he can up close.
            I realize I'm probably the last ******* who ought to be telling someone they didn't need to write all that and that your post isn't very long actually, but, this:

            Originally posted by earl-hickey View Post
            Wilder - Let his hands go

            Fury - stay the hell out of range
            Is all you needed to say bubba.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by larryxxx.. View Post
              Drop some ideas about styles each should use

              Wilder-He should pump the jab and aim most lead shots to the chest area of Fury as his head movement will make it hard to land until Wilder gets him timed and finds his rhythm. Landing to his chest will also take his wind and maybe fatigue him early.

              Fury-He should use his feet to keep turning Wilder so that he can not load up his shots and has to keep resetting. He should take advantage of Wilder's low hands and leaky defense by feinting to the body and then he will catch Wilder clean on the chin.
              Conventional wisdom is that Fury should fight Southpaw so he has plenty of room to see and react to Wilder. On this account I might favor fighting out of the orthodox side and keeping my left shoulder raised and weight back... Give Wilder a smaller target and make him have to rush in with Fury's shoulder in his way.

              Fury also should fight off the back foot and time Wilder, angle out at a 45 degree and counter him over the right. Pick Wilder apart with jabs, and fight him inside, lean on his side though... Not like Holy did with Tyson because of the height the uppercut on the inside is dangerous for Fury... better to pivot to the side when inside make Wilder have to follow you.

              In general Fury wants his shoulder, and a false line, to allow him to stay close to Wilder, and make Wilder chase him and miss. Then he wants to counter Wilder and get him offbalance. Rinse wash and repeat.

              For Wilder, game plan is relatively simple: you have to connect with your right the most times you can. But in order to entice Fury, Wilder should try to get his jab working. feint to the head and hit the body with the jab, get Fury to drop his arm (he has a habit of doing so already) and lure him to a position where his weight is tending less on the back leg. This is Wilder's chance to throw his right. When you do throw step right in front of Fury... You can now throw that uppercut.

              When Fury starts to move, instead of chasing him, attack the body with the jab, just touch him... move lateral instead of in pursuit, Cutting the ring off, jab to the body, and when Fury puts any weight forward bomb squad! When you throw just follow with the uppercut before being tied up.

              Thats how I see it.

              Fury wants to create angles to counter Wilder and get points...that is why he should not southpaw it and put a whole field in front of both guys where Wilder can run in and connect. Use the shoulder as a site and to protect the chin, pick Wilder apart piece by piece... Sidestep him inside taking the uppercut out of play.

              Wilder wants to get Fury lit up. To do so he needs to get Fury out of position, with the hands, with the weight, etc.
              to do this Wilder has a jab and an uppercut.

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              • #8
                some good answers so far

                I like the line "wilder just needs to be wilder"...I think that's it.....wilder has every advantage here...I don't think theres a way fury can win this fight even if just in the minds of the fans....

                I think wilders team is expecting a lot of tie ups...we saw deas warn wilder about getting hit out of the breaks....I think youre gonna see fury try to punch his way in and then get inside and muck it up......but he better be careful though because wilder is getting to like that uppercut and hes not afraid to throw it where some guys are hesitant...wilder likes to try to hit the homerun

                I expect wilder to be wilder....5-6 rounds of feeling out..with the jab....maybe take a couple of big shots through the first half.....I don't expect wilder to go overboard with the jab even though it might help win rounds and not give the impression hes getting "outworked".....I think wilder does his usual thing and then lets his athleticism, power and stamina take over in the 2nd half.....

                but boxing crazy and you never know

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                  Conventional wisdom is that Fury should fight Southpaw so he has plenty of room to see and react to Wilder. On this account I might favor fighting out of the orthodox side and keeping my left shoulder raised and weight back... Give Wilder a smaller target and make him have to rush in with Fury's shoulder in his way.

                  Fury also should fight off the back foot and time Wilder, angle out at a 45 degree and counter him over the right. Pick Wilder apart with jabs, and fight him inside, lean on his side though... Not like Holy did with Tyson because of the height the uppercut on the inside is dangerous for Fury... better to pivot to the side when inside make Wilder have to follow you.

                  In general Fury wants his shoulder, and a false line, to allow him to stay close to Wilder, and make Wilder chase him and miss. Then he wants to counter Wilder and get him offbalance. Rinse wash and repeat.

                  For Wilder, game plan is relatively simple: you have to connect with your right the most times you can. But in order to entice Fury, Wilder should try to get his jab working. feint to the head and hit the body with the jab, get Fury to drop his arm (he has a habit of doing so already) and lure him to a position where his weight is tending less on the back leg. This is Wilder's chance to throw his right. When you do throw step right in front of Fury... You can now throw that uppercut.

                  When Fury starts to move, instead of chasing him, attack the body with the jab, just touch him... move lateral instead of in pursuit, Cutting the ring off, jab to the body, and when Fury puts any weight forward bomb squad! When you throw just follow with the uppercut before being tied up.

                  Thats how I see it.

                  Fury wants to create angles to counter Wilder and get points...that is why he should not southpaw it and put a whole field in front of both guys where Wilder can run in and connect. Use the shoulder as a site and to protect the chin, pick Wilder apart piece by piece... Sidestep him inside taking the uppercut out of play.

                  Wilder wants to get Fury lit up. To do so he needs to get Fury out of position, with the hands, with the weight, etc.
                  to do this Wilder has a jab and an uppercut.
                  interesting analysis...some good stuff here

                  and great avatar btw....did you some insight from willie d on this fight? lol

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                  • #10
                    There is a big difference between Wilder connecting with good scoring power punches and the large step, fake left jab to pull the guard down and power right hand that he relies on to K.O. Feigning will get Wilder to retreat, get of out of position, off balance etc. and then Fury needs to take advantage of this whilst he can early on; land with planted shots early on to take the edge of Wilder. Ideally, K.O. him and take risks to do so because the longer the fight goes on, Wilder will get busy and it is not the K.O. risk so much as the risk of not getting a decision in LA I'd be concerned about.

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