The genius of Wilder: So bad, he’s good

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  • johnbook
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    The genius of Wilder: So bad, he’s good

    Yeah, Wilder does things “wrong.” But they end up working well.
    Wilder is like a type of comedian, who’s so bad he ends up being funny.

    His wide, looping punches would be a no-no for most boxers, but given his long arms, they are out of his opponent’s peripheral vision. So they connect, often unseen till the last moment. Then too he sometimes connects with the wrist area of the glove—a no-no. Since he’s got so much speed on the punch, and the glove hardly has padding there…well, opponents go down. And the ref has no clue--neither does anyone else till they see the replay.

    Then he gets too close for comfort, but his hands have incredible speed. Vs Ortiz, IIRC the first time Ortiz went down, it was ruled a slip. But we can barely make out that it was in fact a punch. And you can see from the worried look on Ortiz’s face he knew it was a punch he hadn’t seen. It was like Bruce Lee’s vaunted 1 inch punch.

    It was much faster than Ali’s “phantom punch” which is easily seen on YT. Like with Lee, it should have been filmed at a faster rate so that it could better be slowed down later. Wilder may have the fastest hands of any top boxer now. Amazing for someone of that height and arm length.

    Wilder—so bad he’s good or great.
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    not buying this. people were saying how 'awkward and unorthodox' indongo was too and then when he came up against someone with tight technique at world level he got obliterated.WIlders getting away with it because his opposition has been so poor, nothing else. its called the sweet science for a reason

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    • johnbook
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      #3
      Originally posted by DramaShow
      not buying this. people were saying how 'awkward and unorthodox' indongo was too and then when he came up against someone with tight technique at world level he got obliterated.WIlders getting away with it because his opposition has been so poor, nothing else. its called the sweet science for a reason
      Well isn't Ortiz now arguably the #3 HW?

      At HW all the top are flawed in various ways. Wilder, in total, seems the best right now or the most likely to defeat all the others because of their own defects.

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      • QuebecSTAR2
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        tyson fury will beat wilder's ass back to wakanda.

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          #5
          Originally posted by johnbook
          Well isn't Ortiz now arguably the #3 HW?

          At HW all the top are flawed in various ways. Wilder, in total, seems the best right now or the most likely to defeat all the others because of their own defects.
          he'll get badly exposed by joshua and usyk.

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            #6
            Originally posted by QuebecSTAR2
            tyson fury will beat wilder's ass back to wakanda.

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            • REDEEMER
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              Wilder is very light for a Heavyweight and he's 6'7. He should be very fast like Ali was, they both are about the same weight. The refs miss a lot of illegal punches as well. We don't know how good wilder is without a reach advantage because he's not a fluid boxer. We'll have those answers this week.

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              • hugh grant
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                Yes hope ref cracks down on wilder rabbit punches and dodgy wrist punches

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                • Cortez
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                  Originally posted by DramaShow
                  not buying this. people were saying how 'awkward and unorthodox' indongo was too and then when he came up against someone with tight technique at world level he got obliterated.WIlders getting away with it because his opposition has been so poor, nothing else. its called the sweet science for a reason
                  well he managed it at olympic level as an amatuer too and there is countless examples of it in the past as well.

                  he doesnt do what he is "supposed to" though I will give you that

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                  • Cutthroat
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                    Wilder doesn't throw strictly looping punches, he throws a ton of very short punches that often go unnoticed like the jab that he dropped Ortiz with.

                    He's a good inside fighter and body puncher as well, but one of his strongest skills is his management of distance. His distance management is on the level of the Klitschko bros and Fury, it's elite.

                    Very difficult to even hit Wilder unless he's taking chances and trying to land himself. Wilder is very skilled just not so much fundamentally which is what most people are only capable of seeing, it's a failure of the fans to see his sheer skill.

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