Comments Thread For: Crawford-Collazo Deal Nearly Done; Could Be March 23 At MSG

[Bigg Rigg]

Nobody wanna see this fight

[Scipio2009]

Danny Garcia is free than after April.

Danny Garcia is basically third on the starpower pecking order (Pacquiao, Spence are ahead; Thurman is close, as is Khan).

Danny Garcia is very unlikely to cross anything to be treated like a Crawford opponent, and Bob Arum committed too much money to keeping Crawford from jumping to do much of anything else.

Danny will have his Granados fight, likely have one more fight a touch above that level in the second half of the year, make his $3m+ for those two fights (with DSG Promotions being on the banner, Danny Garcia being a strong ticket seller in multiple markets, and Garcia-TBA basically being a headlining fight for Showtime/CBS or FOX), and then will have a big meaningful fight.

Be realistic.

[Removed Now]

Unless he dumps Arum, he would he would get stuck fighting guys like that, what a waste!

I agree. Smdh.

[Scipio2009]

If Spence vs Garcia does very well at Jerry World and Crawford vs Collazo does very well at MSG then I can see both Bob and Haymon getting the networks to buy into a co-network PPV; FOX PPV/ESPN PPV !

It’s been done before but Bob and Al must see to reason!

Don't be delusional; the TV network gets 7% and the HD fee for each event. There's a reason why the only times you've ever seen a joint PPV event were Lewis-Tyson and Mayweather-Pacquiao.

If Spence-Mikey does very well, Haymon and the camp will go to bed knowing that they have Spence-Danny, Spence-Porter, Spence-Pacquiao, and Thurman-Spence as viable PPV fights, for Showtime or FOX.

If Crawford-Collazo does very well (how you measure that for a fight that may end up being shoved onto ESPN+ is beyond me), Bob Arum goes to bed seeing that maybe he has a bit more money to offer to bring someone else over (Haymon has shown that he's not opposed to pursuing any and every opportunity for the guys that he works on behalf of, but Showtime/CBS and FOX/FS1 have put Haymon into a spot where he can deliver for near all of his guys without venturing elsewhere).

Would be interested in seeing how much Collazo is getting for heading over, though; gonna be hard to draw anyone over of note if ~$500000 is all that's on offer.

[Squ□redCircle34]

Don't be delusional; the TV network gets 7% and the HD fee for each event. There's a reason why the only times you've ever seen a joint PPV event were Lewis-Tyson and Mayweather-Pacquiao.

If Spence-Mikey does very well, Haymon and the camp will go to bed knowing that they have Spence-Danny, Spence-Porter, Spence-Pacquiao, and Thurman-Spence as viable PPV fights, for Showtime or FOX.

If Crawford-Collazo does very well (how you measure that for a fight that may end up being shoved onto ESPN+ is beyond me), Bob Arum goes to bed seeing that maybe he has a bit more money to offer to bring someone else over (Haymon has shown that he's not opposed to pursuing any and every opportunity for the guys that he works on behalf of, but Showtime/CBS and FOX/FS1 have put Haymon into a spot where he can deliver for near all of his guys without venturing elsewhere).

Would be interested in seeing how much Collazo is getting for heading over, though; gonna be hard to draw anyone over of note if ~$500000 is all that's on offer.

No! You’re wrong, Haymon has the fighters that fills these tv slots and same with Bob, they can pull a power play and make a deal with DAZN or another app to force Showtime/Fox and ESPN’s hand to make joint network fights especially if they can prove the profit is worth it!

I think Spence vs Crawford could sell decently by late 2019 especially if Bud gets a solid opponent after the Collazo fight, maybe someone like Danny Garcia who’s a strong viewership bringer and ticket seller!

The potential for money is there, Bob and Al has been in the game prolly longer than the Fox/Showtime/ESPN CEO’s!

Networks can get their cut, but it’s not reasonable that a fight where one fighter is being endorsed by Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys and the other is being endorsed by one of the wealthiest on the planet in Warren Buffet plus is selling out arenas in a non-boxing town in Omaha!

Step outside from the internet and see to reason!

[Scipio2009]

No! You’re wrong, Haymon has the fighters that fills these tv slots and same with Bob, they can pull a power play and make a deal with DAZN or another app to force Showtime/Fox and ESPN’s hand to make joint network fights especially if they can prove the profit is worth it!

I think Spence vs Crawford could sell decently by late 2019 especially if Bud gets a solid opponent after the Collazo fight, maybe someone like Danny Garcia who’s a strong viewership bringer and ticket seller!

The potential for money is there, Bob and Al has been in the game prolly longer than the Fox/Showtime/ESPN CEO’s!

Networks can get their cut, but it’s not reasonable that a fight where one fighter is being endorsed by Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys and the other is being endorsed by one of the wealthiest on the planet in Warren Buffet plus is selling out arenas in a non-boxing town in Omaha!

Step outside from the internet and see to reason!

Spence-Danny and Thurman-Spence are both bigger PPV fights that Spence-Crawford. Heck, Spence-Mikey is arguably a bigger PPV fight than Spence-Crawford (General q rating, the money/markets that the fighters can draw, national/international reach, etc). Spence-Porter is likely near Spence-Crawford, but I wouldn't fight anyone who said otherwise.

Four PPV fights in hand (working with people and partners you already happily work with) are at/better than a PPV option with a potential partner (who is such a bad partner that they, the last time you worked with them, *****ed and moan to drawing $150m through their company simply because they weren't calling the shot), and you want to do what?

Lol, how about Spence gets his 4 PPVs out of the way first; Spence-Mikey, Spence-Porter, Spence-Thurman, Spence-Danny.

And that's before you remember that Arum is only even entertaining the shared PPV if his company gets 50% on the event and equal say on every decision, lol (compared to Mayweather-Pacquiao, where his company got 40% of the take to sell the China/PI TV rights and simply watch Floyd make every decision).

The moment that Jerry Jones fronted the money to stage Spence's fight at the Cowboys facility (buying all the tickets on the front end, but making his money back and then some for the actual event), a 50/50 split between Crawford and Spence no longer made sense.

[killakali]

Haymon definitely has influence. These “promoters” like TGB, Dibella Entertainment, Mayweather Promotions etc are just vehicles to avoid Haymon being prosecuted under the Ali Act.

I’m not saying this a any huge ground break in the Arum-Haymon Cold War, but the fact that a Arum fighter is fighting a Haymon fighter is definitely a positive step forward in relations between the two.

haymon had nothing to do with this fight. Collazo team made the deal with top rank then let Haymon it was done. All Haymon is doing is taking 10% of Collazo million dollar purse

[killakali]

Haymon definitely has influence. These “promoters” like TGB, Dibella Entertainment, Mayweather Promotions etc are just vehicles to avoid Haymon being prosecuted under the Ali Act.

I’m not saying this a any huge ground break in the Arum-Haymon Cold War, but the fact that a Arum fighter is fighting a Haymon fighter is definitely a positive step forward in relations between the two.

Collazo manager Keith Connolly declined to comment on the prospect of the fight other than to acknowledge to ESPN that he and Top Rank president Todd duBoef have discussed it. Collazo's adviser is Premier Boxing Champions creator Al Haymon, and he and Top Rank generally do not do business with each other. But if Crawford-Collazo happens, it would not be viewed as any sort of breakthrough, because Connolly has more say-so with Collazo's career than Haymon

[killakali]

Don't be delusional; the TV network gets 7% and the HD fee for each event. There's a reason why the only times you've ever seen a joint PPV event were Lewis-Tyson and Mayweather-Pacquiao.

If Spence-Mikey does very well, Haymon and the camp will go to bed knowing that they have Spence-Danny, Spence-Porter, Spence-Pacquiao, and Thurman-Spence as viable PPV fights, for Showtime or FOX.

If Crawford-Collazo does very well (how you measure that for a fight that may end up being shoved onto ESPN+ is beyond me), Bob Arum goes to bed seeing that maybe he has a bit more money to offer to bring someone else over (Haymon has shown that he's not opposed to pursuing any and every opportunity for the guys that he works on behalf of, but Showtime/CBS and FOX/FS1 have put Haymon into a spot where he can deliver for near all of his guys without venturing elsewhere).

Would be interested in seeing how much Collazo is getting for heading over, though; gonna be hard to draw anyone over of note if ~$500000 is all that's on offer.

Collazo manager Keith Connolly declined to comment on the prospect of the fight other than to acknowledge to ESPN that he and Top Rank president Todd duBoef have discussed it. Collazo's adviser is Premier Boxing Champions creator Al Haymon, and he and Top Rank generally do not do business with each other. But if Crawford-Collazo happens, it would not be viewed as any sort of breakthrough, because Connolly has more say-so with Collazo's career than Haymon

[killakali]

Spence-Danny and Thurman-Spence are both bigger PPV fights that Spence-Crawford. Heck, Spence-Mikey is arguably a bigger PPV fight than Spence-Crawford (General q rating, the money/markets that the fighters can draw, national/international reach, etc). Spence-Porter is likely near Spence-Crawford, but I wouldn't fight anyone who said otherwise.

Four PPV fights in hand (working with people and partners you already happily work with) are at/better than a PPV option with a potential partner (who is such a bad partner that they, the last time you worked with them, *****ed and moan to drawing $150m through their company simply because they weren't calling the shot), and you want to do what?

Lol, how about Spence gets his 4 PPVs out of the way first; Spence-Mikey, Spence-Porter, Spence-Thurman, Spence-Danny.

And that's before you remember that Arum is only even entertaining the shared PPV if his company gets 50% on the event and equal say on every decision, lol (compared to Mayweather-Pacquiao, where his company got 40% of the take to sell the China/PI TV rights and simply watch Floyd make every decision).

The moment that Jerry Jones fronted the money to stage Spence's fight at the Cowboys facility (buying all the tickets on the front end, but making his money back and then some for the actual event), a 50/50 split between Crawford and Spence no longer made sense.

mgm has put up site fees for Crawford’s fights. Going to at&t stadium for those cheap tickets isn’t ground breaking.