Comments Thread For: Frank Warren: I've Never Seen Tyson Fury This Determined

[kafkod]

I read about this last week, makes me feel like Fury wasn’t informed about this.

Who knows?

What I do know is that Fury should have had a real fight against somebody with a pulse before going for a title. And Warren isn't ******, he knows that too.

Warren is taking advantage of Fury's balls and Ben Davison's inexperience for his own selfish reasons. No way on Earth would this fight be happening now if Tyson was still with Uncle Pete and Mick Hennessy.

[Earl-Hickey]

I read about this last week, makes me feel like Fury wasn’t informed about this.

The second i saw that i knew exactly what was going on.

Fury himself couldn't stop going on about how he wasn't going to be rushed, and how Ali only had 2 fights before frazier and it wasn't enough, etc etc etc

next minute here we are.. then it comes out that fish eyes is bankrupt...

yeah we all know what happened here

[Ray*]

Who knows?

What I do know is that Fury should have had a real fight against somebody with a pulse before going for a title. And Warren isn't ******, he knows that too.

Warren is taking advantage of Fury's balls and Ben Davison's inexperience for his own selfish reasons. No way on Earth would this fight be happening now if Tyson was still with Uncle Pete and Mick Hennessy.

Under his uncle this fight wouldn't have happened. Say what you want about Mick he is a decent man, he wouldn't be involved in a promotion like this one. He would know Fury isn't ready.

The second i saw that i knew exactly what was going on.

Fury himself couldn't stop going on about how he wasn't going to be rushed, and how Ali only had 2 fights before frazier and it wasn't enough, etc etc etc

next minute here we are.. then it comes out that fish eyes is bankrupt...

yeah we all know what happened here

I was very sceptical when they were talking about this happening. Some dumb american posters on here equate that to us "Hating or hoping" the fight does happen. When I have seen Fury talking about what you mentioned here.

So this bankruptcy thing makes sense. No promoter who has his fighters best interest at heart would put his fighter in the position that Frank has place Fury. Not even his opponent (Wilder) would be put in that position by his own team.

[James Hunt]

mhm

losing weight isn't particularly difficult, but look at the body composition

Fury at 254 vs cunningham



Fury at 258 vs pianeta



Basically the same weight, but physically he looks a mess

I absolutely agree. Losing weight is the easiest part though everybody is only talking about that and totally neglecting terminal damages to his body and mind (coke).

[James Hunt]

Much better fighting him now than when Joshua wanted to fight him on his first fight back.

Hopefully who ever wins will get full credit. According to his uncle Peter Fury, Tyson started training December of 2016, so if he isn't ready now he never will be. Plenty of time. It would be funny as hell if he beat Wilder and Joshua.

Seems you've mistaken Joshua for Wilder cuz the letter one is fighting unprepared Fury. Even Fury is constantly mentioning that.
Joshua said exactly the opposite-that he's prepared to fight Fury when he'll be ready, at his best.

[_Rexy_]

I read about this last week, makes me feel like Fury wasn’t informed about this.

Doubt it would have mattered. Fury said before he announced his comeback that he would be fighting for a world championship at the end of the year. We all laughed at that. Chances are, he signed with Warren because it got him a quick shot at Wilder if AJ/Wilder didn't happen.

[Ray*]

Seems you've mistaken Joshua for Wilder cuz the letter one is fighting unprepared Fury. Even Fury is constantly mentioning that.
Joshua said exactly the opposite-that he's prepared to fight Fury when he'll be ready, at his best.

You have to understand that some of these Wilder american fanboys are fanatics. They can't seperate facts and opinion. They want to rewrite everything in Wilder's favour, they already claim he would be number 1 at HW once he beats Fury lol. Hot mess they are.

[Earl-Hickey]

Seems you've mistaken Joshua for Wilder cuz the letter one is fighting unprepared Fury. Even Fury is constantly mentioning that.
Joshua said exactly the opposite-that he's prepared to fight Fury when he'll be ready, at his best.

Hearn actually offered Fury I think it was a 5 fight deal with steady progression leading to a Joshua fight, which Fury turned down to sign with Warren.

Fury threw his toys out of the pram because hearn offered "only" 3 million quid for the first fight, where fish eyes paid him 5 for safer seferi.

Personally i think it was a dumb move from Fury, I think he could have squeezed a bit more out of hearn and hearn would have actually given him progression and really built up to an AJ fight probably next summer

[James Hunt]

Under his uncle this fight wouldn't have happened. Say what you want about Mick he is a decent man, he wouldn't be involved in a promotion like this one. He would know Fury isn't ready.



I was very sceptical when they were talking about this happening. Some dumb american posters on here equate that to us "Hating or hoping" the fight does happen. When I have seen Fury talking about what you mentioned here.

So this bankruptcy thing makes sense. No promoter who has his fighters best interest at heart would put his fighter in the position that Frank has place Fury. Not even his opponent (Wilder) would be put in that position by his own team.

Maybe that the reason Fury lately changed his tune about Joshua and Hearn. He's now praising them, esp. Hearn.
Check this interview with Gareth A. Davies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvwlDoj4EN4

[Ray*]

Doubt it would have mattered. Fury said before he announced his comeback that he would be fighting for a world championship at the end of the year. We all laughed at that. Chances are, he signed with Warren because it got him a quick shot at Wilder if AJ/Wilder didn't happen.

From a promoters point of view it matters greatly. You dont put your best asset at a disadvantage going into a fight. You don't do that unless you are in financial trouble.

Before Fury came back and signed with him, it was well known that Fury spoke to a number of promoters, his plan wasn't to be rushed back, he knew he would need 4/5 fights before he fights the bigger threats, no promoter would encourage or be involve in it unless they are in hot mess and in need of quick money.