Matchroom learns from DAZN trip to Kansas

[filup79]

Fair take, but me personally? I'm a fan of DAZN. Sure the Matchroom USA cards haven't been all that great, but the WBSS has had some damn good fights. Then we just get Bellew/Usyk which is a nice scrap. The fact that it really only has boxing/MMA is bit of a problem as you are limited in the content you can watch. They did pick up some MLB rights where it is supposedly like the RZ channel for NFL. Not sure if you are into baseball or not, but they do have that. Their success will depend on the NFL rights and to an lesser extent, NBA rights.

And we were supposed to get Andrade/BJS which was a high quality bout. I can do without all these Miller vs Adamek or Dinu fights of course, but hey the stable for Hearn just isn't there right now.

To each their own. Not hating on DAZN, the content that is on is just not for me regardless of the 2 or 3 good fights they have had. I just don't see myself paying for something I dont use regardless of the price. I know they got MLB now on DAZN and I'm a big baseball fan but its nothing that moves me when I can watch the same highlights on FS1 or ESPN MLB shows. I don't think they will ever get NFL or NBA rights, all those big sports have their own apps where they could just go that way if they want to fully stream their games. They might get a weekly game like the NFL gives Amazon Prime. I did the same thing with the ESPN+ app as well, they have more content but for me personally, it wasn't something I used on a regular basis, to be honest I only watched the Crawford/Horn fight and never used the app again so I cancelled.

[filup79]

We shall see. That is where there is a big difference between the UK and USA. Networks license fees is what matters most and not the live gate. Until that changes, I doubt we will see better crowds or stadium fights. Though we will be seeing a stadium fight in Spence/Garcia. Will it do massive AJ type of numbers? Of course not, but the hope is it exceeds 30k and gets around the 40k range. That would be very good IMO. Will stadium fights become a norm though? Highly unlikely.

Stadium fights aren't that great. It's pretty much thousands of people paying to watch a fight on a giant screen. I've been to both a stadium fight and arena fight, it's better when its at a arena where there is less people you have to deal with even if you pay a little more. I would just stay home or watch it at a bar if I have to watch a fight on a screen

[Laligalaliga]

There is no reason for him, or any potential suscriber, to put that in consideration.

No consumer is going to invest money monthly into a product that is terrible now with the hopes a year or two it will get better. They’ll just wait until the product gets better.

And it will.

But it won’t be because of Hearn. That’s what Espinoza alluded to in that podcast about how he needs to worry about his own situation. Because it’s clear DAZN is already restructuring some things. Golden Boy may become the go-to for the US at some point (sooner than later), while Hearn concentrates elsewhere.

That's where you are getting it wrong and I understand your major concern being hearneis involved in the project, it's quite unfortunate.

This project is far beyond who and who is involved in the process. It's about giving the fans what they will appreciate which commensurate with the subscription.

It's a win win situation.

[mp1110]

I would rather pay for a big PPV fight that I want to see instead of paying $10 dollars a month for crap fights that I have no interest in. I subscribed to DAZN in Sept. cancelled right away. All Eddies cards have been garbage the last 2 months. The WBSS cards are a lil better but nothing to keep me glued to the fight. That's $20 for 2 months of weak boxing cards and nothing more. I pay $8.99 for Showtime, but I get to watch other content that I like at anytime I want. PPV prices don't restrict fans from watching a PPV fight, whether they pay for it or not, fans watch them, whether it be at a bar, stream or house party. Nobody is jumping to see any of DAZN cards regardless of the $9.99 price tag.

That's where I am as well. For $10/month Showtime gives me PBC cards, ShoBox cards, Inside the NFL, Ray Donovan, etc. It's a no-brainer.

Underwhelming Matchroom or GBP cards aren't worth anything to me especially when FOX/FS1 and ESPN will be carpet bombing boxing cards on basic cable in 2019.

[EasternEuroFan]

There's a reason why big promoters aren't taking their shows to places like Kansas and basically only frequent the same places, apart from the odd fighter like Crawford and where he's from,

i think it's a nice idea to take boxing to other places, but i think Hearn thought these cities would be buzzing that boxing events are going there instead of realising that nobody gives a ****, and that's why they don't go there in the first place.

There has been other successful and smart promoters before Hearn, do you think they have never looked into the possibility of these markets before? of course they will have and decided against it.

[KTFOKING]

Stadium fights aren't that great. It's pretty much thousands of people paying to watch a fight on a giant screen. I've been to both a stadium fight and arena fight, it's better when its at a arena where there is less people you have to deal with even if you pay a little more. I would just stay home or watch it at a bar if I have to watch a fight on a screen

I agree, I'm not all into stadium fights either. They don't sound too fun.

[KTFOKING]

To each their own. Not hating on DAZN, the content that is on is just not for me regardless of the 2 or 3 good fights they have had. I just don't see myself paying for something I dont use regardless of the price. I know they got MLB now on DAZN and I'm a big baseball fan but its nothing that moves me when I can watch the same highlights on FS1 or ESPN MLB shows. I don't think they will ever get NFL or NBA rights, all those big sports have their own apps where they could just go that way if they want to fully stream their games. They might get a weekly game like the NFL gives Amazon Prime. I did the same thing with the ESPN+ app as well, they have more content but for me personally, it wasn't something I used on a regular basis, to be honest I only watched the Crawford/Horn fight and never used the app again so I cancelled.

We shall see. But even getting one NFL game a week would be huge for them. Either way, that is what will dictate the success of DAZN or not. Boxing is just pretty much a big short term investment with them eyeing the other sports league to truly make a mark in America.

What will hurt them also is ESPN+ is in a similar situation and they are going after the same type of content. They ended up getting rights to the Italian soccer league. They are more likely to get some type of NBA or NFL rights than DAZN in a few years IMO.

[KTFOKING]

There's a reason why big promoters aren't taking their shows to places like Kansas and basically only frequent the same places, apart from the odd fighter like Crawford and where he's from,

i think it's a nice idea to take boxing to other places, but i think Hearn thought these cities would be buzzing that boxing events are going there instead of realising that nobody gives a ****, and that's why they don't go there in the first place.

There has been other successful and smart promoters before Hearn, do you think they have never looked into the possibility of these markets before? of course they will have and decided against it.

The last paragraph is spot on. I like that he is going after those markets, but really, do you not think the others would as well if there was money to be made there? Boxing has been going on hundreds of years, and there is a reason stateside they take place in the same areas.

[IMDAZED]

That's where you are getting it wrong and I understand your major concern being hearneis involved in the project, it's quite unfortunate.

This project is far beyond who and who is involved in the process. It's about giving the fans what they will appreciate which commensurate with the subscription.

It's a win win situation.

I’m not sure you read what I wrote.

Yes, it’s win win. As I said, I believe it will turnaround. Hearn will ultimately handle outside America. He has the inventory for that. Others have the inventory for the US.

[uppercut510]

hearn should be okay he just needs more names, but disrespecting and talking down on the US and saying hes going to take over isn't helping his cause....