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  • EasternEuroFan
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    #21
    Originally posted by larryxxx..
    Usyk and Loma have proven far more then Crawford
    Maybe so, i am fans of them but you could ask how great the other cruiserweights are really?

    Also, the most highly regarded fighter on Loma's record is Rigo and we know he was far too undersized anyway, even if i think Loma is just better than him regardless.

    I dont think any of them have had wins over true top notch opponents but then its fair to say there isn't enough elite competition about anyway for some of them.

    Crawford has no excuse going forward though, his division is stacked.
    Last edited by EasternEuroFan; 11-19-2018, 10:57 AM.

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    • GhostofDempsey
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      #22
      You were sucking off Broner not long ago, who did he beat for all his titles?

      I don't see anyone calling AJ an ATG. Where are you getting this from?

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      • DuckAdonis
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        #23
        Originally posted by larryxxx..
        Parker, Whyte,Wlad,Martin,Takem,Povetkin is not some ATG list sorry
        But it's the best resume in the division right now

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        • Ray*
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          #24
          Who are the people calling him an all time great? He does have the best resume at HW currently and he is number at that weight currently. I know that hurts some of you Wilder fanatics but those are facts. Even Dillian "Freaking" whyte currently has a better resume than Wilder. If Wilder beats Fury then his resume puts him at number 2. He is now finally doing something about his terrible resume.

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          • CrowsNestWest
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            #25
            Originally posted by larryxxx..
            I see multiple threads about "WHY ARE PEOPLE ATTACKING JOSHUA" AND "IF HE WAS AMERICAN HE WOULD BE A TOP 10 ATG HEAVYWEIGHT"...Come on man, he beat Charles Martin for the IBF, beat a 40 year old Wlad coming off of a loss and a 2 year layoff for the vacant WBA, Then beat Parker for the WBO...Why should everyone be sucking him off exactly?? Seems like some posters want him crowned king before he even proves himself King...The guy is still very unproven and has to keep putting in the work to get his respect..
            Yeah AJ has very conditionally become Unified. People don't even recognize the IBO till they want to boost AJ's status. His titles are won out of convenience, even the WBO. It was convenient Parker didn't apply enough pressure or he probably wins that fight.

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            • killakali
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              #26
              Originally posted by larryxxx..
              I see multiple threads about "WHY ARE PEOPLE ATTACKING JOSHUA" AND "IF HE WAS AMERICAN HE WOULD BE A TOP 10 ATG HEAVYWEIGHT"...Come on man, he beat Charles Martin for the IBF, beat a 40 year old Wlad coming off of a loss and a 2 year layoff for the vacant WBA, Then beat Parker for the WBO...Why should everyone be sucking him off exactly?? Seems like some posters want him crowned king before he even proves himself King...The guy is still very unproven and has to keep putting in the work to get his respect..
              Didn't the WBC champ beat somerthing called Bermane Stiverne to win his belt?

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              • LetOutTheCage
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                #27
                I can agree with the statement that he's not great yet, but to say he's unproven clearly shows your bias against him. Who does he need to beat in order to be proven at heavyweight? Bearing in mind that he has beaten Klitchko, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker and Takam who are all ranked highly among the current heavyweights and he did this in 22 fights

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by killakali
                  Didn't the WBC champ beat somerthing called Bermane Stiverne to win his belt?
                  It was also a vacant belt that Stiverne won by beating Arreola.... So when these females talk about AJ beating Martin, for a belt that was stripped off Fury, you start asking do they really follow boxing?

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                  • mlac
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                    You were sucking off Broner not long ago, who did he beat for all his titles?

                    I don't see anyone calling AJ an ATG. Where are you getting this from?
                    Juggernutter666 not only called him an ATG, he claimed he was the 'GOAT'

                    but he doesnt really count, considering he is completely insane.

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                    • uppercut510
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                      #30
                      there simply isn't enough big names at HW to crown anyone king, they all need to fight eachother and AJ needs stop hiding behind politics and money acting like a DIVA when it comes to fighting wilder, Ortiz, or fury. He has the best resume of them all I agree but like Larry is saying you all need to calm down with the overhyping and acting like this guy is already an ATG and his resume is something to brag about. its simply not

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