In all seriousness, this Fury/Wilder fight has backfired pretty badly

[siablo14]

that's a good thing bro, because your country doesn't have any good fighters.

In recent past, they batter-bruised your nation in cricket though.

[Rubber Ducky]

Ortiz was signed by Hearn you idiot.

So many forget the facts when it comes to sucking off Deontay Wilder. Ortiz was given 2 fights on matchroom sports to get the UK audience interested in him facing Anthony Joshua, but Ortiz didn't look motivated in either fight and failed to impress. Later he failed another PED test and after all the fallout from that decided to jump ship for a shot at Wilder's WBC title.

He wasn't signed to Hearn. According to Hearn Ortiz refused to sign a deal with Matchroom and only agreed a fight by fight basis deal, which Hearn has done before with other fighters.

It's true he looked poor and that would of made Hearn think twice about matching Ortiz with Joshua as it would of been a hard sell to the casuals. But either way Ortiz was never inline for a shot before the mandatory was called, Wlad was the fight they were looking for before Ortiz ever fought on a Hearn card and that was common knowledge.

And yes he clearly decided to choose an easier path to a title when he signed with Haymon and had agreed a fight even before his mandatory was confirmed by the WBA.

Talk is cheap, it's his actions that expose Ortiz. He talks big about fighting Joshua but when he had the chance he performed poorly, refused to sign with Hearn and chose to fight Wilder instead.

[Ray*]

Casuals like you barely watch boxing anyway. Why you even here?

This “Unbiased” Boxing fans kill me.

[Zn1]

He wasn't signed to Hearn. According to Hearn Ortiz refused to sign a deal with Matchroom and only agreed a fight by fight basis deal, which Hearn has done before with other fighters.

It's true he looked poor and that would of made Hearn think twice about matching Ortiz with Joshua as it would of been a hard sell to the casuals. But either way Ortiz was never inline for a shot before the mandatory was called, Wlad was the fight they were looking for before Ortiz ever fought on a Hearn card and that was common knowledge.

And yes he clearly decided to choose an easier path to a title when he signed with Haymon and had agreed a fight even before his mandatory was confirmed by the WBA.

Talk is cheap, it's his actions that expose Ortiz. He talks big about fighting Joshua but when he had the chance he performed poorly, refused to sign with Hearn and chose to fight Wilder instead.

source?

https://www.boxingscene.com/luis-ortiz-inks-promotional-with-matchroom-boxing--109565

Every other source I can find also confirms that he signed with them and only later were the details revealed that it would be on a fight by fight basis. He still signed with them.

[Earl-Hickey]

In recent past, they batter-bruised your nation in cricket though.

not a fan

somethings gone wrong with their sport though, they used to kick ass

[kafkod]

The problem with Finkel is when you tell a lie, then you need to tell another lie to cover up that other lie. All you need to do is go back and look at the little interviews that he has given from day 1 to this point. Then go and have a look at the interviews Hearn has given from day 1 up to this point in regards to how the negotiations transpired. Then fathom in comments/interview by Warren in regards to the phantom $50 to 80m dollars offer.

Then you would see who ducked that fight. Add those two market values to the equation and what they both bring to the table to make that fight.

Whether you believe everything Hearn says or not, there is consistency in his statements on AJ/Wilder.

There is no consistency from Wilder and Finkel.

Finkel:

"I have told Eddie Hearn we officially accept his offer to fight Anthony Joshua on the terms Eddie gave us"

"We never accepted that offer, because it didn't have an address or a venue."

Wilder:

"This isn't about money, I just want to fight the best"

"$15million is crackhead money! 50/50 or no fight!"

[Chrismart]

Yeah, according to Finkel, they couldn't accept the $15million offer because it didn't specify a venue .. nothing to do with it not having a date now, apparently.

He also said that they knew right from the start of the Wilder/Fury negotiations that the venue was going to be the Staples centre, they just didn't want to tell anybody.

Shelly's getting old. He can't even remember his own lies any more.

Yep, Finkel has been all over the place from the start of these 'talks'. He's always changing what he has previously said.

[siablo14]

You guys blasting the fight are fools.
Their not even in the ring yet you decide it's a flop.
This is probably the biggest heavyweight fight this year yet all you do is bring it down maybe because your idol AJ didn't have the gumption to make it happen.
Cry into your beers lads when this fight proves successful.

But but AJ could of earned his biggest payday and got what HE was asking for yet he Daddy Hearn wouldn't allow it. Lol.
So to save face for all you poms Fury accepted the challenge that AJ wouldn't and this is after coming of a 3 yr lay off.
Don't criticize the fight which should have been AJs just cause he has no balls.
Relish in the fact that at least one of your fighters from across the pond will take on the Bronze Bomber.
No more to say.
Goodbye.

Lol.
Yes you are right.
You got me their, doesnt mean we won't have a Fenech or Kostya on his way soon though.
Patience.

C'mon mate.

If you are an Aussie, why is your English sh**tty like the Americans.

Red - They are, They're
Blue - have, 've
Green - There

[siablo14]

not a fan

somethings gone wrong with their sport though, they used to kick ass

The Aussies are just average now. They win some; they lose some but the West Indies mostly lose all.

[Laligalaliga]

Yer and I also know he's a cheat so he's a bum.

Does that make Ortiz, miller and podvetkin bums too?