Comments Thread For: Wilder: Hearn Treated Ortiz Like Clown, All Unfulfilled Promises

[Mrbamladen]

Excuses... upon excuses. When all fails pull out the phantom 50 million dollars no meeting offer.

So......when has aj ever made 50m plus ppv upside for one fight??? What's the point of a meeting when you don't accept the money split???

[Ray*]

aah, the old version switcheroo

you were the one who bought up resume

FACT: Fury has a better win that Joshua, no question

and if he beats Fury, Wilder will also have a better win than Joshua

who you have - or have not - fought, in the past..... is no reason whatsoever to avoid a fight now

Am not talking about Fury. If Wilder beats Fury is still not number one. It doesn’t matter how hard anyone tries to showcoat it. Even Whyte resume is on par if not better than wilder resume as we stand.

Whether you like it or not, Wilder was protected for 95% of his professional career, and that is reflected in his resume. He has been a pro longer than all those names and his resume isn’t even that much.... Those are facts.

Am more of a Wilder fan but am not deluded. When he does something that I should praise him for then I will. But to claim he would be number one after beating this version of Fury is delusion at its best. People who says that either don’t know much about boxing or they are new to it... same difference.

[Ray*]

So......when has aj ever made 50m plus ppv upside for one fight??? What's the point of a meeting when you don't accept the money split???

Again excuses excuses. Phantom offer can occur with crackheads. Not in the real educated world.

[Ray*]

Nothing I said has anything to do with would, could, or should.

What the hell are you talking about?

Your post is full of excuses like the rest of Wilder fanatics, you bring nothing new. You are not a genuine boxing fan. So no point debating with poster that starts off driven BS. And making excuses why a champion was called a baby and protected for so long.

[Sid-Knee]

AJ cant beat Ortiz his own promoter would've matched them already. NO ONE THINKS AJ BEATS ORTIZ OR FURY.

When could AJ fight Ortiz?

[that g]

* sigh *

the number of belts held by Joshua (the A side) made no difference whatsoever to the earning potential, or to the split

fkn stoppit willya, that is ridiculous

FACT: Parker got 32.5%
FACT: Wilder > Parker, in EVERY department
FACT: Wilder OBVIOUSLY deserves more than Parker

until they offer Wilder 32.5% (minimum) they are talking shlt

actually, by your own logic, if parker deserved "32.5%" by bringing one belt to a FOUR (or three, depending on what you think) belt unification, then wilder deserves a lesser split for bringing only one belt to a unification bout with more belts.

that's before we talk about the fact that 32.5 represented less than 10 mill, which wilder has always been offered more than.

[Sid-Knee]

You guys clown yourselves with some of these posts.

You say things that prove that either you have never seen the fights you talk about or you were drunk when you did.

Ortiz fought 2 times for Matchroom and was dominant in both fights against guys trying their best to avoid actually fighting.

Chisora did not "tear Scott a new arzole"

He was arguably being outboxed, scored a KD with 15 seconds left in the round that Scott beat the count for, only to have the referee wave the fight off in a situation Scott would clearly have survived- in Wembley, go figure.

Ortiz is the truth, which is why both AJ and Whyte have ducked him twice each.

Behave yourself. Ortiz looked flat in both of those fights. Stop trying to make Ortiz out to be this boogieman, because he isn't even close. You're doing it because you're trying to prop up Wilder because he's his only win of merit. It's crazy bias.

When did Joshua duck Ortiz? That never happened. Stop living in fantasy land you psycho nationalist.

[Bossman15]

When did he pass on the Ortiz fight. This is false.

When Ortiz fought Allen why do you think Eddie signs all these Heavyweights like Miller Whyte & Ortiz just to use as leverage to duck fighters it's like this Joshua will fight the winner of Whyte vs Chisora if not Miller cause I just don't see him stepping up for Ortiz or Wilder next

[Sid-Knee]

Just an absurd amount of spin and misinformation.

Their resumes are evidence of one of them starting as an unknown while the other debuted with historical fanfare.

The details of how Joshua's fights came to be do not reflect a Joshua looking to make great fights but rather great fights coming to Joshua. Whyte, Martin, Wlad, Parker, and Povetkin is a great resume, bar none the best, but Whyte, Martin, Wlad, Parker, and Sasha all pursued Joshua not the other way around.

Shelly was Wlad's manager. Why isn't this worded as Wilder called Wlad out, Wlad said Wilder needs to get more fights, and the manager they shared agreed with Wlad? That is what happened. If I was as propagandist as you I'd claim Wlad and Wlad's manager ducked ducked Wilder publicly.

Joshua pursued Whyte, Wlad, Martin and Parker. So stop lying. And who cares who pursued who. All that matters is the fights get made. Which they did. Wilder and his team never pursued anybody other than Fury because they knew he was shot after looking awful against a couple of bums. It's all spin on their end.

Wlad never said Wilder needed more fights to get a fight with him, he was just talking in general. So who's spinning now? Wilder and his team wanted nothing to do with Wlad at all. But here you nutters are trying to make out that it was Wlad doing the ducking. You people make me sick.

[Bossman15]

No fccking road leads to wilder. He has never given any body a pay day since his pro career.
In fact mention one fighter that has gotten 30% against wilder.

They damn sure don't lead back to Joshua and you act like Joshua is just making millions across the world granted he is getting paid only in the U.K. plus people are ducking Wilder if not he would of had all those fights including facing Joshua at the beginning this year and if 30% is an issue than why did Joshua's team reject their 50 million dollar offer then which was Joshua's highest payday son