Comments Thread For: Wilder: Hearn Treated Ortiz Like Clown, All Unfulfilled Promises

[wildman]

Don't forget, Ray.......Wilder was ready to fight both Povetkin and Ortiz quite some time ago.... until they tested positive for PEDs. He can only fight who's available and willing to face him.

[Ray*]

Don't forget, Ray.......Wilder was ready to fight both Povetkin and Ortiz quite some time ago.... until they tested positive for PEDs. He can only fight who's available and willing to face him.

So you are NOT a critic of him then? Great. So he held a belt and didn't and wasn't ready to fight the top name according to his manager but you are not a critic in that scenario.

But you are a "Critic" when the guy you are criticising didn't give in to Wilder payday demands, you are a critic of him even though he has a better resume than Wilder. You are a critic even though when he won his belt he then went on to unify those belt.

But you are NOT a critic when Wilder didn't do the same thing even though he has also being a pro longer than the person you claimed "Avoid" him.

You cannot avoid someone who you sent a contract to many times, a contract that represent 5 times his usual payday. If you think someone is avoiding you then you sign those contract.

So GTFOH with that BS.

[Bossman15]

When you are the top guy then shots get thrown at you. It happened with Mayweather, it happens with Joshua.. No difference, all road leads to Anthony Joshua. He has the best resume at HW and he offers the biggest payday for everyone else. So when you are sitting at the throne you can expect peasants to talk about you all the time, your name promotes their name.

Let's be honest here Joshua's claim to fame in this is winning that IBF belt from Martin who fraudulently won it from Glazkov with them not being able to continue in the 3rd plus his resume is not the best either.

Plus ask yourself why did Joshua pass on the Ortiz fight and why did he say he would fight Miller in Brooklyn but not Wilder or at least Fury before April 13 it seems to me that all roads leads to Wilder in this situation because they are making every excuse to not make the fight period

[Ray*]

Let's be honest here Joshua's claim to fame in this is winning that IBF belt from Martin who fraudulently won it from Glazkov with them not being able to continue in the 3rd plus his resume is not the best either.

Plus ask yourself why did Joshua pass on the Ortiz fight and why did he say he would fight Miller in Brooklyn but not Wilder or at least Fury before April 13 it seems to me that all roads leads to Wilder in this situation because they are making every excuse to not make the fight period

The same Martin that Fury place a bet on to beat Joshua? For one i couldn't care less that a prospect like Joshua took the risk to fight Martin, he fought on the Wilder undercard where he won the IBF belt, he had the same manager as Wilder but Team Wilder didn't want to take the risk of fighting Martin.

Ortiz choose to fight Wilder instead of Joshua, maybe he thought that would be easier who knows? Ortiz came over here to fight but stink out the joint too.

Wilder and Fury are tied up, Joshua alone can't fight everyone. You cannot fight everyone on the same night, everyone wants to fight him because he represents their biggest payday, fine that happens with Mayweather.

If WIlder wants the fight then there is a contract waiting for him. Yeah the same slave contract that he used as an excuse to duck the fight. That slave contract still represents numbers that he has never seen before.

[Bossman15]

Joshua is still a little green IMO. I know he beat a few guys like klitchko and parker but still those fights were not easy. Wilder beats him and really i think ortiz beats him. I would love to see him fights ortiz first before wilder.

Exactly Ortiz beats him if he fights like he did against Parker and Povetkin he looked nervous and green. plus him facing Ortiz first could open Breazeale next for Wilder if no deal is made for Wilder vs Joshua or Joshua vs Ortiz because it looks as if Miller could face the Winner of the Whyte vs Chisora fight he just needs to stop ducking this fight with Wilder

[Andre_parker1]

All this talk that Joshua is a better fighter because he sells out stadiums is hogwash. Joshua is the most protected fighter in the heavyweight division. The real reason he has avoided Ortiz and his PR people talk about how old Ortiz is to cover for him is his chin is suspect. Joshua's big claim to fame is ONLY his win over a slow, old, rusty already beaten Klitchko. He has so many belts because the heavyweight division is so thin he fought tomato cans no real threats that could punch and were his size. He has avoided any really credible big heavyweights who could punch. Ortiz would knock him out and cudos to his management team who knows this and avoids any talk of fighting Ortiz or Wilder. This lame crap of offering insulting purses then claiming the real competition don't want to fight him is baloney. If he's so good lets see a 50-50 fight without a rematch clause. NOPE! Instead hire a few folks to throw insults and stay safely tucked away in England while the real fighters fight each other. Whose next Joshua? Maybe go after Canelo or does he punch to hard for ya?

a 63 yrs old (if that's true) boxing shîtty commenter hating on a 29 yrs old Olympic,boxing multimillionaire champion.. why am i not surprised

[DougalDylan]

All this talk that Joshua is a better fighter because he sells out stadiums is hogwash. Joshua is the most protected fighter in the heavyweight division. The real reason he has avoided Ortiz and his PR people talk about how old Ortiz is to cover for him is his chin is suspect. Joshua's big claim to fame is ONLY his win over a slow, old, rusty already beaten Klitchko. He has so many belts because the heavyweight division is so thin he fought tomato cans no real threats that could punch and were his size. He has avoided any really credible big heavyweights who could punch. Ortiz would knock him out and cudos to his management team who knows this and avoids any talk of fighting Ortiz or Wilder. This lame crap of offering insulting purses then claiming the real competition don't want to fight him is baloney. If he's so good lets see a 50-50 fight without a rematch clause. NOPE! Instead hire a few folks to throw insults and stay safely tucked away in England while the real fighters fight each other. Whose next Joshua? Maybe go after Canelo or does he punch to hard for ya?

"If he's so good lets see a 50-50 fight without a rematch clause."

Why would he do that did Wilder give Ortiz 50-50 and a rematch clause hell no, when Wilder was the A side so about 20% and no rematch clause was what Wilder gave Ortiz when he was the A side so sounds fair everyone ?

The problem is if you give 50:50 to guys with boxrec's as bad as Wilder why would any up and comers go the AJ route and pick the top guys early when they can fight guys who've lost there last six fights like Wilder did ?

[Bronx2245]

"According to Ortiz’s manager, Jay Jiminez, “King Kong” fought Allen with the understanding that he would next face Joshua in accordance with an agreement with Joshua’s promoter, Eddie Hearn.

“We already know the story of how they had that man [Ortiz] over there fighting like he was a clown, entertaining the people, promising him all types of s***. One thing I hate is unfulfilled promises. I come from the era of unfulfilled promises where people promise you things and they don’t come to pass,” said Wilder.

“And you’re sitting there, waiting. That’s what they did with Ortiz. They were scared of him. They wanted to hold him so they wouldn’t have to fight him. That’s just sad."

Somebody should tell this idiot that Ortiz has just signed another deal with Hearn!

Did he? I know Ortiz's manager said they were in talks, but he never confirmed that they reached an agreement. Do you have a link?

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

Lol at Hearn lying to fighters just to get them to sign. I hope Jacobs sees this interview and realize he’s being played. Had that man fighting in front of 3k people

[Tom Cruise]

Let's be honest here Joshua's claim to fame in this is winning that IBF belt from Martin who fraudulently won it from Glazkov with them not being able to continue in the 3rd plus his resume is not the best either.

Plus ask yourself why did Joshua pass on the Ortiz fight and why did he say he would fight Miller in Brooklyn but not Wilder or at least Fury before April 13 it seems to me that all roads leads to Wilder in this situation because they are making every excuse to not make the fight period

Good lord.