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  • Noelanthony
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    #11
    Originally posted by Marvlus Marv
    Do we not take into account Usyk struggling with Bellew for most of the 8 rounds which nobody predicted? He did a lot of bouncing up and down but until Tony emptied his gas tank, he hardly looked like a superstar. I can't see him beating any of the really big men.
    I agree but tell me a fighter in Bellews entire career that has made him empty his tank by the 5th round. He fought the perfect fight. You couldn’t have dreamed for a better start for him but by the 6th round you knew the end was near.

    If usyk hears the final bell against any heavyweight he wins. He has the ring smarts and Stamina to fight like Mayweather as a heavyweight.

    N.b let me stress this for the hard headed. Nobody is saying he is Mayweather

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      #12
      Originally posted by kafkod
      You are talking like Usyk went life and death with Bellew!

      Yes, he "struggled" with him - for the first 5 rounds. That's what's supposed to happen when 2 world class boxers collide!

      They meet in the ring and have a fight .. ie, they "struggle" with each other, till the better man asserts his superiority and wins.

      And it didn't take long for Usyk to do just that. Like the article says, as soon as he went up a gear, he took over and finished Tony emphatically.
      Well said...

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      • uppercut510
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        #13
        people are acting like usyk was getting beat badly, its not like bellew was a bum, maybe it was his plan to tire out bellew and then turn it on later, it worked... but on another note the main people complaining here are the same ones who jump on other fighters who have close fights up until knock outs and call it struggled with, but im not saying any names.

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        • Marvlus Marv
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          #14
          Originally posted by Anthony Millar
          Of course there's some big 'If's' and Tony's game plan was spot on and clearly frustrating Usyk. To be fair it's hard to look like a super star against that strategy so credit to Bellew. But elite boxers make adjustments and after the first 3 rounds you could see the fight turning around. But again kudos to Bellew, those first 3 rounds would have normalised most heavyweights. Will be interesting to see if Usyk can keep his movement when he's 14-20lb heavier.
          Usyk did a lot of swishing and missing by a fair distance. I honestly feel if Bellew was better conditioned and more recently active he could have won that. I only gave him a punchers chance. Surely AJ would be too big and too strong. Usyk vs Fury?

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          • Marvlus Marv
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            #15
            Originally posted by kafkod
            You are talking like Usyk went life and death with Bellew!

            Yes, he "struggled" with him - for the first 5 rounds. That's what's supposed to happen when 2 world class boxers collide!

            They meet in the ring and have a fight .. ie, they "struggle" with each other, till the better man asserts his superiority and wins.

            And it didn't take long for Usyk to do just that. Like the article says, as soon as he went up a gear, he took over and finished Tony emphatically.
            Bellew ain't world class. Come on man, you're being silly. He's maximised his abilities which were pretty decent - 2 or 3 ABA titles means he's a proper boxer. Tony wasn't meant to outbox Usyk, though, I'm sure you can admit that, but that's exactly what was happening, and I'm saying that Tony's conditioning let him down. Folks have a lot of hype invested in Usyk and Tony debunked a little bit of that, imo. Similar to GGG and Kovalev losses which exposed their weaknesses, but still there are some who fail to acknowledge what Canelo and Ward managed to do. Usyk is very good but greatness may elude him.

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            • Marvlus Marv
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              #16
              Originally posted by Noelanthony
              Well said...
              Yet Tony said himself his tank just "emptied" which is why Usyk got to him. It suggests his conditioning wasn't what it should have been or the belief drained out of him - which would be strange since he was up on 2 cards and must've known he was winning the fight. Usyk's pressure was constant but he was mostly bouncing and flicking out the jab with varying success.

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              • Fategg666
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                #17
                Originally posted by Marvlus Marv
                Bellew ain't world class. Come on man, you're being silly. He's maximised his abilities which were pretty decent - 2 or 3 ABA titles means he's a proper boxer. Tony wasn't meant to outbox Usyk, though, I'm sure you can admit that, but that's exactly what was happening, and I'm saying that Tony's conditioning let him down. Folks have a lot of hype invested in Usyk and Tony debunked a little bit of that, imo. Similar to GGG and Kovalev losses which exposed their weaknesses, but still there are some who fail to acknowledge what Canelo and Ward managed to do. Usyk is very good but greatness may elude him.
                How can anyone say tony was out boxing him. Laughable!
                Not a fan of either but usyk was just making sure he didn't walk into anything whilst making tony work for every min. Tony was hitting gloves and elbows.
                Watch again with Russian comentry so u can't be manipulated by sky sports .
                So one sided it's crazy.

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                • Marvlus Marv
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Noelanthony
                  I agree but tell me a fighter in Bellews entire career that has made him empty his tank by the 5th round. He fought the perfect fight. You couldn’t have dreamed for a better start for him but by the 6th round you knew the end was near.

                  If usyk hears the final bell against any heavyweight he wins. He has the ring smarts and Stamina to fight like Mayweather as a heavyweight.

                  N.b let me stress this for the hard headed. Nobody is saying he is Mayweather
                  But Usyk wasn't doing a great deal to make Tony gas so suddenly. He couldn't work out how to get to Tony without getting touched by his right hand. Even Bellew said his energy levels just disappeared. I'm not completely buying the argument that it was Usyk's relentlless pressure that got to Tony and I think some of the Usyk hype was debunked, a la Canelo vs Golovkin II & Ward vs Kov II (especially so).

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                  • Marvlus Marv
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Fategg666
                    How can anyone say tony was out boxing him. Laughable!
                    Not a fan of either but usyk was just making sure he didn't walk into anything whilst making tony work for every min. Tony was hitting gloves and elbows.
                    Watch again with Russian comentry so u can't be manipulated by sky sports .
                    So one sided it's crazy.
                    So how the hell did most people have Bellew UP on the cards including 2 of the judges? How do you win rounds in your opinion if not by outboxing your opponent? wtf..

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                    • kafkod
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                      #20


                      Originally posted by Marvlus Marv
                      Bellew ain't world class. Come on man, you're being silly. He's maximised his abilities which were pretty decent - 2 or 3 ABA titles means he's a proper boxer. Tony wasn't meant to outbox Usyk, though, I'm sure you can admit that, but that's exactly what was happening, and I'm saying that Tony's conditioning let him down. Folks have a lot of hype invested in Usyk and Tony debunked a little bit of that, imo. Similar to GGG and Kovalev losses which exposed their weaknesses, but still there are some who fail to acknowledge what Canelo and Ward managed to do. Usyk is very good but greatness may elude him.

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