Olexander Usyk did what I wanted him to do.

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  • deanrw
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    #11
    Originally posted by Raggamuffin
    Time will tell. Ill root for him. I root for the smaller guys when they fight the bigger guys.
    I'm kinda meh when it comes to it all. I am not a fan of his style 80% of the time. His last fight I enjoyed though. I am just more interested in if he can pull it off. Kinda like the holyfield David vs Goliath scenario.

    Wilder and Fury would be the hardest opponents for him. Joshua is too stiff.

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    • 4truth
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      #12
      I would not favor Usyk against either Wilder or Joshua but looking back at the Szpilka fight it makes me think that against Wilder he would have the best chance. Seems like Wilder needs to set before he fires and that can be disrupted. Joshua is locked and loaded, if you get in his sights he can take you out in an instant.

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      • Mr Objecitivity
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        #13
        Originally posted by 4truth
        I would not favor Usyk against either Wilder or Joshua but looking back at the Szpilka fight it makes me think that against Wilder he would have the best chance. Seems like Wilder needs to set before he fires and that can be disrupted. Joshua is locked and loaded, if you get in his sights he can take you out in an instant.
        A 40 year old, relatively limited, shot version of Povetkin was boxing Joshua's ears off for 6 rounds until he got tired from old age and couldn't keep up the pace. Not to mention, his durability was gone. But before he was tired and before his durability became a factor, he was out-landing and out-punching Joshua. Even busted Joshua's nose up.

        Usyk is a MUCH better boxer than Povetkin. Is much faster, with much better footwork, foot speed and hand speed. Has a much better jab and so forth so on. Basically, Usyk is on another level and he is also in his prime and isn't susceptible to gassing like Povetkin is in his old age.

        That Povetkin fight tells me if Usyk fights Joshua in his prime, he can / may very well beat Joshua. And Wilder's fight against Szpilka as you rightly said, also proves Usyk has a very good chance at beating Wilder.

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        • Raggamuffin
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          #14
          Originally posted by deanrw
          I'm kinda meh when it comes to it all. I am not a fan of his style 80% of the time. His last fight I enjoyed though. I am just more interested in if he can pull it off. Kinda like the holyfield David vs Goliath scenario.

          Wilder and Fury would be the hardest opponents for him. Joshua is too stiff.
          Well said and agreed.

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          • Raggamuffin
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            #15
            Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity
            A 40 year old, relatively limited, shot version of Povetkin was boxing Joshua's ears off for 6 rounds until he got tired from old age and couldn't keep up the pace. Not to mention, his durability was gone. But before he was tired and before his durability became a factor, he was out-landing and out-punching Joshua. Even busted Joshua's nose up.

            Usyk is a MUCH better boxer than Povetkin. Is much faster, with much better footwork, foot speed and hand speed. Has a much better jab and so forth so on. Basically, Usyk is on another level and he is also in his prime and isn't susceptible to gassing like Povetkin is in his old age.

            That Povetkin fight tells me if Usyk fights Joshua in his prime, he can / may very well beat Joshua. And Wilder's fight against Szpilka as you rightly said, also proves Usyk has a very good chance at beating Wilder.
            Headvetkin was old. Can’t compare Usyk and old Headvetkin. And Usyk can’t beat Wilder. He’d beat Joshua doe lmao.

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            • Mr Objecitivity
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              #16
              Originally posted by Raggamuffin
              Headvetkin was old. Can’t compare Usyk and old Headvetkin. And Usyk can’t beat Wilder. He’d beat Joshua doe lmao.
              Wilder needed 10 rounds to stop Szpilka. Wilder was also losing rounds to that guy. Usyk is a southpaw, but is SIGNIFICANTLY more skilled than Szpilka.

              Wilder also failed to drop Duhaupas with 11 rounds of flush punches.

              So I wouldn't be so confident in giving Wilder the victory. And I wouldn't write off Usyk that quickly against any of the top heavyweights.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                Time will tell. Ill root for him. I root for the smaller guys when they fight the bigger guys.
                Me as well.

                I hate ward but i’ll root for him against usyk, Lol
                I will root for mikey against spence
                I rooted for Rigo over loma

                Only exception was Khan lol

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by deanrw
                  I'm kinda meh when it comes to it all. I am not a fan of his style 80% of the time. His last fight I enjoyed though. I am just more interested in if he can pull it off. Kinda like the holyfield David vs Goliath scenario.

                  Wilder and Fury would be the hardest opponents for him. Joshua is too stiff.
                  You said it better than I could've bro.

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                  • Raggamuffin
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity
                    Wilder needed 10 rounds to stop Szpilka. Wilder was also losing rounds to that guy. Usyk is a southpaw, but is SIGNIFICANTLY more skilled than Szpilka.

                    Wilder also failed to drop Duhaupas with 11 rounds of flush punches.

                    So I wouldn't be so confident in giving Wilder the victory. And I wouldn't write off Usyk that quickly against any of the top heavyweights.
                    Needed? Lmao...And if you had Wilder losing to Szpilka, then you can't score a fight. The southpaw comparison comes at CW and HVW. What you're saying makes absolutely NO sense. But I sense that you love Loma and Usyk so I expect the above lmao.
                    Wilder has gotten better with each fight. He put Szpilka in the hospital. He also stopped Duhaupus. And Im confident that if Usyk and Wilder fight...and Wilder isn't old by then that Usyk has no chance to beat Wilder.

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                      #20
                      I want Usyk-Whyte for the WBO Mando.

                      Fat, slow, but powerful. Whyte's a good step in and honestly I do not agree with folks saying he needs to whoop a handful of ****cans to prove he's a HW. If he makes weight he's proven it. No one would favor Fujimoto over Usyk so we can stop pretending like there is a division or even one single body's ranking board that has too much talent for Usyk to not be right in the top tier. Let him a crack at the top of them and if he whoops Whyte let him his crack at the king.


                      Not so sure Joshua is too stiff for Usyk myself. Joshua was much more stiff prior to Povetkin. I was impressed by that fight. He seemed loose, well loose for Josh anyway. I reckon it's about a 50/50 myself. Maybe 60/40 Joshua but not confident. Would be a good fight.

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