Luis Ortiz: Anthony Joshua es una gallina (chicken)

[REDEEMER]

Let me guess. You are a member of Matchroom Boxing's P.R. Team because all you do is spin. Even when all the facts are present right there in front of you still rely heavily upon conjecture without any proof or evidence to back up your arguments or claims.

Theres is actually nothing you said factual,you claimed the WBC is the most prestigious which ironically is P.R stunt by the WBc and has no real facts because of the WBA history of much more historical champions owning the belt. Why do I need to back this up its in the history books and im not a continuous fanboy like you trying to convince people which for whatever reason thinks it'll change Wilders standings.

Edit : In retrospect Wilder is not a very good champion and hes a K.o artist ,his actual downfall is people like you because its like owning a house ,if your properties trashy it brings the value down in the neighborhood.

[FaustoGeraci]

Joshua gave a contract to Wilder

Wilder refused to sign whilst Joshua did sign

End of story

You really are a special guy eh? I'm one or two people like you from stopping posting here for another 7 years.

[Jax teller]

It's a fact, that since Joshua defeated Wladimir Klitschko for the unified heavyweight championship. Everyone of Anthony Joshua's mandatory challenge defenses, Wilder shits all over them.

Moreover, he defeats them more convincingly than AJ does. So let's take a close look at all 5 of Anthony Joshua's title defenses shall we please?


Alexander Povetkin - If clean Wilder sparks him out

Joseph Parker - Wilder drops and stops him.

Carlos Takam - Wilder by vicious knockout

Wladimir Klitschko - Dr. Steel Hammer openly ducked
Wilder but had they fought,
Deontay Sparks him out

Carlos Molina - Wilder already knocked him out



So there you have it. Out of that resume, "The Bronze Bomber' obliterates the competition.

Wilder didn't even defeat Jason Gavern (1 more round) and Molina (6 more rounds) more convincingly than AJ, also both had multiple knockout losses before Wilder so they was already ruined before Wilder could do it.

[Jax teller]

Joshua is about to debut, the UK tells the world he's the greatest fighter ever.

Joshua does nothing, beats no one, earns no title, and is considered better than any champion while enjoying more sales than the then current champions.

That's why Martin called him out.

The UK was already on-board with Josh prior to him doing anything. The UK was already comparing Josh to Fury prior to Anthony having done anymore than fight his Ams rival.

Joshua avoided Martin because he was scared of trying to live up to the hype generated around him.

Joshua did not fight Martin until Joshua was informed by Wilder than if Martin-Joshua has not happened by the time Wilder-Povetkin had then Wilder would fight Martin and Joshua would have to fight Wilder after Anthony fights Takam in a title elim.

Joshua wanted to delay the Martin fight and still be able to fight CM for the IBF. He wanted more time to get ready for Martin until Wilder made sure he realized if he takes his time it won't be Martin Joshua has to fight.

To avoid Deontay Wilder Joshua fought Martin before Joshua wanted to.

To avoid Deontay Wilder Joshua fought a beaten, laid-off, and aged former champion who had never accepted a vol or uni outside of reg-super unification.

To avoid Deontay Wilder Joshua fought a man who was gifted his title against a fatman and then damn near lost it to midranker Hughie.

To avoid Deontay Wilder Joshua fought the man who had made a career out of avoiding and not being called out for it.

Yeah....resume.

When every Sally under the sun avoids you one of the Sallies has to be the bottom *****. Queen of all other Sallies.

If Martin was fighting Joshua because he saw Joshua as easier and more lucrative than Wilder or Fury and Joshua is fighting Martin to avoid Wilder then Joshua beating Martin doesn't mean anymore than Joshua is Queen of the Pansies.

Oh boy he beat up Wlad? Wlad didn't need Joshua to get more defenses.....mysteriously. Wlad had no interest in Wilder, but since he was interested in Joshua that makes Joshua more than the winner of two little *****es scared of fighting the KO King?

Dude's a sissy boy. Closest thing to a modern Jem Ward boxing has seen in queensberry years.


His fans rank as some of the dumbest mother ****ers you'll find. Plenty of strong opinion. No understanding. Their series of events never strays from what they were told to say. Ever. You never read an AJ fan defending AJ with **** people forgot. That is strictly the Court of the Dixie King for good reason. They were here, they watched the same interviews and ****, they're just so damn willingly dumb as ****, bit like alien believers, that they turn off their critical thinking and just mindlessly parrot whatever they've been told to.

Then, when you show them with video that don't have Wilder in them at all but rather the person Wilder called out responding to the call out do they correct themselves? No, they just shut the **** up and go away while hoping not many people saw the schooling.

You're uninformed little ****s with strong emotions and almost nothing to back you up. That's why you can't stay on issue and have to bring up loosely relative nonsense to shift the angle of arguments toward something you think you can win....like resume.

You know what resume has to do with not being a *****? Semantics, and absolutely nothing more that's what.

What does a history of avoidance say about being scared of a dangerous fight? A whole ****load more than resume sonny. Bowe does have Holyfield on his resume, he also has a well known history with avoiding. Does Bowe's one big name negate Bowe's one big duck? Of ****in' course it doesn't children....****in' course it doesn't.

Oh but Joshua, her special, her popular in the UK, her don't need to fight the best available. Her don't need to be excited to prove herself. Her can fight only who she is forced while acting like anything deviating from mandatories is a huge pain in her ass. You know....like the Queen of Sissies would do.


Dumbass.

Aah come on man you was doing well.

Not willing to research the reasons and timings of why and all that but AJ had to pay Martin to get in the ring to step to him from what I've heard. Also the facts still remains AJ has fought far better opposition and taken far more risks, far earlier in his career than Wilder. There not really a test left that he hasn't passed apart from Wilder and the smart money would be on AJ as I'm sure the bookies would agree.

Ortiz is hardly TBE with a large but insignificant amatuer record, way past prime, not saying he isn't dangerous just he was not expected to win at that level. So Wilder is still an uncertainty in my humble opinion and draws more of a resemblance to Bowe having that one name on his resume.

Surely you don't think either Wilder or AJ are scared to fight each other? From what I've made out so far is both sides stalling the fight for business reasons aka marinating the worst word fan to hear, nails on a chalkboard.

[Sid-Knee]

It's a fact, that since Joshua defeated Wladimir Klitschko for the unified heavyweight championship. Everyone of Anthony Joshua's mandatory challenge defenses, Wilder shits all over them.

Moreover, he defeats them more convincingly than AJ does. So let's take a close look at all 5 of Anthony Joshua's title defenses shall we please?


Alexander Povetkin - If clean Wilder sparks him out

Joseph Parker - Wilder drops and stops him.

Carlos Takam - Wilder by vicious knockout

Wladimir Klitschko - Dr. Steel Hammer openly ducked
Wilder but had they fought,
Deontay Sparks him out

Carlos Molina - Wilder already knocked him out



So there you have it. Out of that resume, "The Bronze Bomber' obliterates the competition.

Been reading your usual madness but decided you were too much of a freak to waste any more time on. But i'll bite on this one...

Did you just say Wilder performed in a more convincing fashion against Molina than AJ did? Even though Wilder struggled, got rocked by him and couldn't finish him until the 9th round? Whereas AJ didn't break a sweat or get hit and knocked him out with ease in 3.

Are you trolling, or are you just this ****ing scary and creepy deranged?

Seriously, you need some ****ing medicine.

[7NN]

Can't read these threads where Wilder vs Joshua or GGG vs Canelo are discussed. The amount of useless information goes off-scale.

[BoZz]

ONLY POMS support that coward joshua..the whole world knows he a coward...sad that it takes an Irishman to defend the British honor

[iamboxing]

That's bullshit and you know it. The fight he always wanted was the money man in the division which is Anthony Joshua not an easier option in Wilder. Ortiz only took the Wilder fight because Joshua wouldn't fight him. It's the fight that he always wanted. That is why he is still chomping at the bit to fight AJ now. Here's the link:

https://www.boxingscene.com/luis-ort...joshua--130505

Don't waste your time posting links. Robbie will just keep arguing with you for the sake of arguing. He's not here for a lively back and forth with fellow boxing fans. He sucks the energy out of every thread with his passive aggressiveness and sarky comments. He's the definition of fanboy: never shows excitement for upcoming fights if they're not Eddie Hearn events, never praises fighters who deserve praise if they're not part of Hearn's stable, never concedes a point in the face of indisputable facts. He's damaged mentally and beyond help.

[juggernaut666]

Does anyone understand this guys posts?

It would take a very special idiot to do that, I usually get to a few sentences and abort .Reading that guys posts one might lose some IQ from the strain!

[champion4ever]

There's no need to get personal with your smug and arrogant attitude. You think the way you act, think and feel is law which it is not. It's only an opinion. I am here to tell you mate that your high brow, pretentious and snobbish ass isn't better than anyone.

You are just another online keyboard wannnabe. Values don't buy class but character does; Which you have none. Now as far as Deontay Wilder is concerned; He is just as good as a champion as AJ or maybe a little bit better.

For example: He is willing to take on risks and give the fight fans, the fights that we want to see. Unlike Joshua who told you guys, if you want to see a Deontay Wilder fight, then maybe you guys should train and become boxers yourselves in order to fight him.

How weak and Bush league is that for a unified heavyweight champion to say to the very people who are supporting him; His fans?

Every great heavyweight champion in the past has donned that prestigious green belt except for Anthony Joshua. It has been lying dormant now for more than two years because he is too afraid of claiming it, in fear of getting his chicken cowardly ass out knockout by "The Bronze Bomber".

Lastly as far as fans as myself, bringing Wilder down because of my support of him. No it is you, that is bringing down AJ with fans like yourself, who are constantly making excuses and apologies for him.

That is what makes the surrounding neighborhood bring down the house values. By your acceptance of less than the best of him, you guys are the ones who is cheapening him not only as a champion but also his legacy.

In summary, your champion Anthony Joshua is afraid of taking risks. He hides behind his mandatory challengers and he dares to be great. Moreover, you guys are his enablers. With fans like yourself, he would always be held up to scorn and public ridicule because you choose to settle rather than demanding the best of him.