Comments Thread For: Hearn: Wilder-Fury Has Only Sold 8,000 Tickets; Not A Good Look

[Zn1]

Put aj on any street in USA and no one would know who he is ,
He can fill a stadium in uk and get $25 a PPV or come and fill a stadium in Vegas where the gate would be huge as well because of ticket prices and get $75-$100 for the PPV and also get the recognition he deserves......

There are people living in America that have highlighted how surprised they were that Anthony Joshua was so well known there, and he was being talked about more than any American HW's especially in the weeks leading up to the Wladimir Klitschko fight.

This guy lives in Los Angeles funnily enough

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/lett...shua-is-a-hit/

I'm not saying he's more well known in the states than Wilder is in the UK, but Americans in general have grown disinterested in the sport and still AJ is known over there despite having never fought outside the UK (as a professional)

[PensionKiller]

1 mil UK PPV's @ $25= $25 mil

1 mil US PPV's @$70= $70 mil

Who would be the A-side then?

If Wilder-Fury sells 300k that's $21 mil

That makes more sense

Wilder has never sold a PPV before and has had trouble selling tickets in the past also. I doubt it even reaches 500k sold.

300k would be a decent number but for 2 of the top 3 heavyweights, that's bad.

[PensionKiller]

That idiot is claiming on UK PPV the promoter keeps ALL THE MONEY while the US promoter only gets half. This is wrong. We don't know the exact percentages because depending on how much leverage you have, you can get a more advantageous split, but the general rule is 50/50 and that goes for anywhere in the world.

That idiot claiming the UK doesn't have cable and therefore the promoter keeps everything is just flat out wrong. Whether it's ****** or Sky, they get their cut just like DirecTV or Comcast would in the states.

Different dynamic for Sky and then in the US. In the US the cable company gets a large chunk and the network such as HBO would get a far smaller percentage.

It was 45 percent for cable company and 10 percent for the network when I last did the research.

[N/A]

Sky do not have to pay any cable provider to air there fights... they are the cable provider

No different than DirecTV, Dish, or the cable providers that own InDemand. Your claim that US promoters have to give up half, but UK promoters don't is 100% false.

[N/A]

Different dynamic for Sky and then in the US.

Not really. Yes Sky is both the TV provider and the PPV provider, but that's no different than DirecTV, Dish or InDemand.

[lfc19titles]

Not really. Yes Sky is both the TV provider and the PPV provider, but that's no different than DirecTV, Dish or InDemand.

You don’t understand or you are lying on purpose again like your lie this fight is selling well which has been exposed

Sky produces sky sports
Sky produces the dish
Sky produce the damn codes and signals
They are the ppv platform

It’s why Hearn is boxing and Joshua is he boxing right now despite all the hate

Get your fat ass lies out of there and go spread fake news about wilder and fury doing 500k ppv buys when we know it won’t do 100k

[N/A]

You don’t understand or you are lying on purpose again like your lie this fight is selling well which has been exposed

Sky produces sky sports
Sky produces the dish
Sky produce the damn codes and signals
They are the ppv platform

And for all of that, you believe they charge the promoter $0 and 100% of the PPV revenue goes to the promoter?

Because that's what the other poster was claiming. That in the US, promoters have to split the PPV 50/50 with the provider, but that in the UK, the promoter keeps 100% and the provider gets 0%. Which is completely false. Sky is taking half just like DirecTV is.

[The plunger man]

And for all of that, you believe they charge the promoter $0 and 100% of the PPV revenue goes to the promoter?

Because that's what the other poster was claiming. That in the US, promoters have to split the PPV 50/50 with the provider, but that in the UK, the promoter keeps 100% and the provider gets 0%. Which is completely false. Sky is taking half just like DirecTV is.

I never said no such thing .what I said is the PPV cut in the states is sliced 50% before it heaven gets to the network and then the network then divides that PPV in half so 25% to HBO,showtime etc and the other 25% go's to the fight side..so if a PPV is 80 dollars ..40 gone to Comcast etc and 40 for the network and fight side..I think the network and fight side then split it... how ****** are to understand that mr bull****ter ? So this fake ohh yeah 80 dollars a PPV stuff is waffle.
That is why PPV is a dying dinosaur because it's needs good numbers to make it work ..300 k at 80 collars is 24 million dollars divide that into half and it's 12 million then take out showtimes cut of it and your probably left with 8 million between both fighter add on a couple of mill from BT box office and they will probably make about 5 million each...if it sells less than 300k this even has serious issue with revenue ...get your facts straight clueless..sky might lose some percentage of the fight revenue buts it's not split in half straight away lol
40 dollars for 300k PPV in the states
25 dollars for 1.1 million in the uk do the maths dummy

[lfc19titles]

And for all of that, you believe they charge the promoter $0 and 100% of the PPV revenue goes to the promoter?

Because that's what the other poster was claiming. That in the US, promoters have to split the PPV 50/50 with the provider, but that in the UK, the promoter keeps 100% and the provider gets 0%. Which is completely false. Sky is taking half just like DirecTV is.

What don’t you understand ?

I think you are spreading fake news on purpose

In the USA directv yes indeed gets a cut from a ppv but guess what ? the ppv distribution also gets a cut eg showtime then gets a slice.

What the uk has an advantage over is only one slice goes out to sky as they are the provider of the dish and also the distributor on their channel and then the rest goes to the fighter

I don’t understand what you are failing to understand

In USA 3 parties get a slice eg directv, showtime and the promoter

In uk two do sky and the promoter as sky is both directv and showtime in the uk

[N/A]

I never said no such thing .what I said is the PPV cut in the states is sliced 50% before it heaven gets to the network and then the network then divides that PPV in half so 25% to HBO,showtime etc and the other 25% go's to the fight side

Wrong. HBO's distribution fee was 7%, not 25%. You seriously have no idea what you're talking about. Sky Box Office takes a similar distribution fee. You're exposing yourself really bad here.