Comments Thread For: Sugar Ray Leonard Says Joshua Must Be Global, Fight in America

[kafkod]

Still no mention of Joshua even entertaining the thought of fighting Ortiz. Until he does, and lets forget about him fighting Wilder for now, he isn't testing himself against the best. Pulev and Whyte? Please...No one wants to see those fights.

Whyte clearly ducked Ortiz, and has anyone noticed other top ten guys even entertain the thought of fighting Ortiz? Breazeale, Parker, Chisora, Povetkin, Miller, Usyk, Fury, or any of the younger up and coming guys?

That's because nobody cares about Ortiz except a few Wilder fanboys desperate to give their hero some credibility.

[kafkod]

Facts...if a fighter is top level and isn't American they want him to come over to the u.s so he could lose against their fighter..shades of canelo,kovalev,golovkin(canelo was used by an american/mexican promoter in delahoya to "beat" golovkin) but mayweather and ward are undefeated because they're one of them..Joshua and hearn are too smart for this..the wilder fight happens in the UK..period!

I've said this before .. after what happened to Kovalev and GGG, AJ would be crazy to fight Wilder in the States. Especially in Nevada, which is where Wilder's team want it.

Wilder being ahead on the scorecards when the Ortiz fight ended was another shocker.

I just hope Fury gets a fair shake from the ref and judges, if they are needed.

[joseph5620]

Because Ortiz brings no money, isnt a mandatory and he wont get any credit for beating him

why doesn't wilder fight povetkin?

same logic.

Are you dense? Wilder flew to Russia to fight Povetkin. The rest is history.

[joseph5620]

Stop looking at his wikipedia you noob

We discussed boxing long before the internet came along buddy, and SRL was a known cherry-picker. Floyd Mayweather jr fought better opposition far more often and is known as one of the biggest cherry-pickers of all time

You have to be at least one of the three dumbest people on this site. If you were discussing boxing before the internet, this makes you even more ******.

[ptek]

Do Americans fight globally when they've made it to the top? Did Mayweather?

Fighters are going to fight where they make the most money. That's the UK for Joshua. Fans have an old mindset for when the US was the home of HW boxing, that time has gone. UK is the new home of HW boxing. There's a big HW fight happening in the US in December and they've sold 7k tickets in over a month. HW boxing is dead in the US. US boxing needs Joshua, Joshua doesn't need the US.

Dream on sleepy dreamer

[ptek]

Who has Ortiz even beat? The way they try to make him out to be a great fighter is ridiculous. Ortiz-Wilder was a fight of two unknowns, nobody knew how good they really were and we still don't know.

Shut the **** up you mug

[strife844]

Stop looking at his wikipedia you noob

We discussed boxing long before the internet came along buddy, and SRL was a known cherry-picker. Floyd Mayweather jr fought better opposition far more often and is known as one of the biggest cherry-pickers of all time

I did not call you any names, so watch your mouth. You can disagree the live long day. What does Wikipedia have to do with anything? Anyone with any boxing knowledge would have said boxrec for finding out who people fought, so again you are off base. I have seen Sugar fight live as well as many others from that era, but even that does not matter when it comes down to it. Bottom line he has hall of famers in their prime on his ledger. So if you want to try and challenge cool, but address it like an adult, don't call me out of my name again over some dumb as **** as a boxing discussion!!

[iamboxing]

SRL is right, America is the historical home of boxing and still the country most associated with boxing. Anyone who is anyone has fought in America. Even Calazaghe had to finally succumb to the pressure and haul his arse over the pond to retire with some modicum of respect. AJ needs to buy a spine and fight in front of a foreign crowd, the big ****ing baby.

[Cyberspace]

Lewis was big in America, but he didn't have a Hearn like promoter.

[Zn1]

I did not call you any names, so watch your mouth. You can disagree the live long day. What does Wikipedia have to do with anything? Anyone with any boxing knowledge would have said boxrec for finding out who people fought, so again you are off base. I have seen Sugar fight live as well as many others from that era, but even that does not matter when it comes down to it. Bottom line he has hall of famers in their prime on his ledger. So if you want to try and challenge cool, but address it like an adult, don't call me out of my name again over some dumb as **** as a boxing discussion!!

I am logged in to boxrec (and wikipedia) .. are you? and for most well known fighters, their wikipedia page appears in the search results BEFORE their boxrec page. I donate multiple times a year to help support wikipedia so perhaps I am bias towards it, but I do have a boxrec account for a reason (I'm active on the site)