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  • davefromvancouv
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    #201
    Originally posted by Zn1
    Fury lost his belts, now Anthony Joshua has them all making him the man to beat whether Fury beats Wilder or vice versa. You can insist that Fury never lost his belts in the ring but you cannot dispute that Anthony Joshua won them in the ring and still has them.

    You won't see AJ taking 3 years out to drink, take drugs and hit the 400lbs mark, yet part of being a champion is remaining active and defending, neither of which Fury did. It's Anthony Joshua then Deontay Wilder. There is no one else that could be considered a champion except Manuel Charr (who was knocked out a few fights ago by a cruiserweight)
    Originally posted by Laligalaliga
    Lolx.... Fury fought once to acquire all that belts and refused to turn up for the rematch..... Good achievement.

    AJ fought 3X to acquire those same belts and defended them. Better achievement.

    AJ is on standby waiting for the winner of the final eliminator.

    End of.
    You're right. Joshua fought hard to pick up Fury's belts and he is a steady, reliable and dedicated champion. Fury has been a terrible lineal champion over the last 3 years by his own doing. But that's the thing about being the lineal champion: there's nothing artificial about it. You can't get stripped and nobody anoints you. You either beat the lineal champion, or you don't. And Fury did...

    So he's part of boxing history and if Wilder wins, he'll be part of history too. Not only that, regardless of who wins, they'll both be rewarded for stepping up (especially Fury). Joshua will be on the outside looking in and people will be wondering:

    Why is he fighting Whyte, Pulev and Usyk?
    Why isn't he on this list?



    Joshua needs to fight the winner of Wilder-Fury, not the other way around...

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      #202
      Originally posted by Laligalaliga
      Lolx..... Irrespective of how much the fight is worth, you can't move from fighting bums for 1.5mil to rejecting 15mil, now demanding 50/50 with ticket price halfed so that people can be seated at the arena.


      Personally I believe hearn is doing too much to make this fight. 15mil is just too much for wilder based on his worth and drawing power with no ppv record to be honest.


      but..... Wilder accepted 15mil, you spastic

      just what we needed, another excuse-making shlt-stain

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        #203
        Originally posted by REDEEMER
        How can Joshua turn down an offer when one wasn't presented to him in 24 hours deadlines that Finkel gave them with cancellation of meetings he refused to partake ? Maybe you just don't Know what an a real contract is and what a counter offer is ? Then again maybe , just maybe you're the guy in your avatar which would make sense!


        but you are clearly just a casual-fan shltter.....

        ..... so, I highly doubt you know who the guy is in my avatar

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          #204
          like Miller said..... AJ is Scared of Wilder's Power

          Top heavyweight contender Jarrell "Big Baby" Miller (22-0-1) returns to action on Saturday, November 17th in Kansas against fellow unbeaten Bogdan Dinu (18-0).

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            #205
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime
            like Miller said..... AJ is Scared of Wilder's Power

            https://www.boxingscene.com/jarrell-...y-shot--133542
            More than likely, Joshua's team will advise him to wait until there is an easier lineal champion than the Wilder-Fury winner. Hopefully he goes against that advice and we see them fight while they are still in their primes.

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              #206
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime
              like Miller said..... AJ is Scared of Wilder's Power

              https://www.boxingscene.com/jarrell-...y-shot--133542


              Originally posted by davefromvancouv
              More than likely, Joshua's team will advise him to wait until there is an easier lineal champion than the Wilder-Fury winner. Hopefully he goes against that advice and we see them fight while they are still in their primes.


              probably

              I think Joshua will fight Wilder eventually, if he has to..... but their preference is to either hope that Wilder loses, or defer that fight until they have milked the Joshua-cow dry

              I think Joshua will fight every other heavyweight, just not Wilder

              it is actually a smart decision

              they are being smart..... their fans are being dumb

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                #207
                Originally posted by davefromvancouv
                You're right. Joshua fought hard to pick up Fury's belts and he is a steady, reliable and dedicated champion. Fury has been a terrible lineal champion over the last 3 years by his own doing. But that's the thing about being the lineal champion: there's nothing artificial about it. You can't get stripped and nobody anoints you. You either beat the lineal champion, or you don't. And Fury did...

                So he's part of boxing history and if Wilder wins, he'll be part of history too. Not only that, regardless of who wins, they'll both be rewarded for stepping up (especially Fury). Joshua will be on the outside looking in and people will be wondering:

                Why is he fighting Whyte, Pulev and Usyk?
                Why isn't he on this list?



                Joshua needs to fight the winner of Wilder-Fury, not the other way around...
                AJ is still the cash cow of the division. All road leads to him.
                Another incentive of fighting AJ is you are likely to win 4 belts if by chance you beat him.

                Any body fighting AJ has more to gain than the unified champ which ever condition you are fighting under.

                Any wise fighter should be looking towards his direction for the gains , fame and popularity.

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                  #208
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  probably

                  I think Joshua will fight Wilder eventually, if he has to..... but their preference is to either hope that Wilder loses, or defer that fight until they have milked the Joshua-cow dry

                  I think Joshua will fight every other heavyweight, just not Wilder

                  it is actually a smart decision

                  they are being smart..... their fans are being dumb
                  Fighting AJ is not a rocket science. Sign the contract and try to beat him to be the cash cow but wilder was too scared to try.

                  He lined excuses after excuses, offered a twitter contract and ran away with finkel.

                  Ran out to the media to cry like a baby. Discharged fury from the rehab to fight him.

                  From zero ppv record to claiming Dec 1 fight will make 2.4mil view but the records have it that they are having difficulty selling tickets.

                  Many road blocks just to avoid the unified champ.

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                  • davefromvancouv
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                    AJ is still the cash cow of the division. All road leads to him.
                    Another incentive of fighting AJ is you are likely to win 4 belts if by chance you beat him.

                    Any body fighting AJ has more to gain than the unified champ which ever condition you are fighting under.

                    Any wise fighter should be looking towards his direction for the gains , fame and popularity.
                    Yes, to the casual fan, he has more belts and LOOKS like the real champion. But in this case, looks are deceiving. And both Wilder and Fury have stated publicly that they won't fight him for anything less than 50/50.

                    They don't need the money. They are quite comfortable with their current situation and aren't interested in negotiating with someone who is greedy enough to demand 85% of the profits. Fury said it best in this interview (3 minutes in):



                    Wilder was a champion well before Martin, Parker and Joshua picked up Fury's belts. And they all avoided fighting him to, as you say, make more money for less risk. That should tell you who THEY think is the best fighter in the division. Who they KNOW is the real champion in the division...

                    Wilder and Fury are very different from Joshua, Parker and Whyte. Wilder and Fury only want to prove to themselves that they are the best in the division. And luckily one of them is the lineal champion.
                    Last edited by davefromvancouv; 11-10-2018, 11:01 PM.

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                      #210
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      probably

                      I think Joshua will fight Wilder eventually, if he has to..... but their preference is to either hope that Wilder loses, or defer that fight until they have milked the Joshua-cow dry

                      I think Joshua will fight every other heavyweight, just not Wilder

                      it is actually a smart decision

                      they are being smart..... their fans are being dumb


                      guess who I was referring to in bold..... ?



                      Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                      Many road blocks just to avoid the unified champ.


                      ..... you are just a fkn idiot kid

                      why would you embarrass yourself like that ?

                      have fun lol

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