Comments Thread For: Haye: Fury Will Have To Fully Reinvent Himself To Beat Wilder

[MDPopescu]

... genetics shows that Gypsy fighters don't last long in age...

[Mindgames]

These are my concerns for Wilder too. Wlad had a hard time landing clean, Fury fights tall with his head out of range most of the time, when he throws, he throws arm punches to score points and isnt looking to fully extend himself out there.

Wilder is a head hunter, which makes some sense when he normally is much taller than his opponents. Now that Fury is taller, Wilder really needs to go to the body and break him down, there is no way that Fury can take a body attack the way he has abused it. His body is a much bigger target than that little goomba head he has. If Wilder is looking for a one punch KO, he could lose this fight on points.

Yep, thats what i see too. Has Wilder ever showed good body punching ability? I cant remember anything specific. I think its very hard to change your style late on in your career, Wlad had it with Fury, Haye tried it with Wlad. Neither found much sucess. Fury having the physical advantages will still be doing what he always did. Like you say if hes abused body holds up, which is debatable.

[Boksfan]

No way, Beyonce got this, knock fat gypsy out! War Beyonce!

[Plick647]

imo, its when Wilder is throwing those... uh, wild punches AFTER his opponents are in trouble... is when Wilder is at his most vulerable. hes gonna have someone good in there, in trouble, and hes gonna get rocked. ive said it when he was 20-0 he needs a far better defense, i still say it now.
with all that said...
WilderKO by rd9, maybe by rd3?

[Ake-Dawg]

Yep, thats what i see too. Has Wilder ever showed good body punching ability? I cant remember anything specific. I think its very hard to change your style late on in your career, Wlad had it with Fury, Haye tried it with Wlad. Neither found much sucess. Fury having the physical advantages will still be doing what he always did. Like you say if hes abused body holds up, which is debatable.

The one athletic fighter Fury fought (Cunningham) was able to land and not get frustrated. I think the elusiveness of Fury and the athleticism of Wilder match up well. Klitschko has cement feet compared to Wilder and even he was able to land on Fury when he pressed the issue.

[Mindgames]

The one athletic fighter Fury fought (Cunningham) was able to land and not get frustrated. I think the elusiveness of Fury and the athleticism of Wilder match up well. Klitschko has cement feet compared to Wilder and even he was able to land on Fury when he pressed the issue.

Fury has stated before that he has more trouble with the shorter guys, 6 3 like Cunningham McDermott ect, and Cunningham was a pretty sound defensive, competent boxer. Maybe more of a style problem, although your right about speed. Wilders workrate is low though, but also he may have trouble with Fury leaning all that weight on him from the height advantage. Wilder has quite spindly legs, it could wear on him and slow him down abit. It is intriguing, different ways to picture it.

[Ake-Dawg]

Fury has stated before that he has more trouble with the shorter guys, 6 3 like Cunningham McDermott ect, and Cunningham was a pretty sound defensive, competent boxer. Maybe more of a style problem, although your right about speed. Wilders workrate is low though, but also he may have trouble with Fury leaning all that weight on him from the height advantage. Wilder has quite spindly legs, it could wear on him and slow him down abit. It is intriguing, different ways to picture it.

That's not Fury style. If it was...he wouldn't have trouble with shorter guys.

[Mindgames]

That's not Fury style. If it was...he wouldn't have trouble with shorter guys.

Well if you look at the Cunningham fight thats pretty much what he did. Change stlye, lean, maul, use hes weight. Pull Steves guard open and smack him with the finisher. Wilders going to have to change hes style as well. Hes not going to be able to sit out of reach being lazy, low workrate and just threatening with the right hand. Hes going to be getting popped with the jab and unable to set because of Furys movement.

[Mindgames]

... genetics shows that Gypsy fighters don't last long in age...

Its more to do with drinking habits probably.

[alexguiness]

Haye is very salty when it comes to Fury.