Comments Thread For: Haye: Fury Will Have To Fully Reinvent Himself To Beat Wilder

[joseph5620]

Alot of the difficulties Haye describes people having with Wilder is because of hes height and reach advantage. Take them away, even against low level guys like Washington and the game changes. Wilders stamina gets a mention, but he has a very low output. How will he do getting hit consistently by a guy who can reach him. No sitting outside in the comfort zone this time. Thats why Wlad found it so hard against Fury, no control of long range for a change.

A lot? He only mentioned his reach once. The rest was about his power, unconventional style, and awkward punches that are hard to defend against.

[miniq]

Fury beat Haye without even having to get him in the ring! LOL

[Ake-Dawg]

Well if you look at the Cunningham fight thats pretty much what he did. Change stlye, lean, maul, use hes weight. Pull Steves guard open and smack him with the finisher. Wilders going to have to change hes style as well. Hes not going to be able to sit out of reach being lazy, low workrate and just threatening with the right hand. Hes going to be getting popped with the jab and unable to set because of Furys movement.

As I said, that's not really his style. He was however able to be effective with it against a former cruiserweight.

Tell me how effective and exciting Fury will be moving and jabbing at the same time. Also, do you think Fury can dance for 12 rounds? Wilder doesn't gas.

[Mindgames]

As I said, that's not really his style. He was however able to be effective with it against a former cruiserweight.

Tell me how effective and exciting Fury will be moving and jabbing at the same time. Also, do you think Fury can dance for 12 rounds? Wilder doesn't gas.

Wilder is very light though, and has talked about dropping a division. I think the weight might matter abit in this one, considering he can actually reach Wilder, whos abit shaky himself. He's been shook up himself, knocked out amatuer and dropped badly by all accounts by Sconiers.Wilder hasnt gassed, but hes always controled the range, abit like Wlad later on in hes career. Hes very low output too, he sometimes throws nothing for rounds at a time like against Washington. I think Fury might hurt him abit more than expected, and might actually not need to jab and move for 12 in this one.But i do admit that anyones guess is as good as mine here, so many variables.

[Mindgames]

A lot? He only mentioned his reach once. The rest was about his power, unconventional style, and awkward punches that are hard to defend against.

Yes, but they are all magnified because Wilder controls the range, and can hit you from so far away. Like Wlad, its alot of work for hes opponents to get in on him. You can risk alot more with a reach advantage. Like Wlad, this time its not there, this time he cant just sit back, low punch output and pick hes moments. He'll get hit more consistently this time. He looks abit shaky himself, i think its not only Fury in danger in this one.