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  • Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
    Do you honestly think that DAZN will front a $40m TV rights fee for Alvarez-Jacobs?
    No network has invested more money into boxing right now then DAZN. You don't spend the money they spending and hand out the biggest contract in sports history to the biggest fighter in the world and then start counting pennies. They just launched in Sept but you think they out of money already and will now force Canelo to pay his opponents in canned goods? Stop it. It's like being the richest man out there and outbidding everyone for the biggest rock star to join your tour and then after paying all that money telling him well we can't afford your backup dancers who make peanuts. You hired the rock star to put on the show he already perfected you don't then tell him well you need to have no dancers, we can't afford the spotlights ect. They have over a billion invested in boxing but you think paying Jacobs 4M is the line in the sand they can't cross? LMAO

    They are trying to change the business model and become the Netflix of sports. You know how many people doubted Netflix when they decided to invest hundreds of millions on...TV shows. Everyone said what are they doing they on you don't have advertisers paying for these shows how can it work. Now you have Netflix paying and producing blockbuster level movies and folks said why they doing that these movies aren't going to Movie Theaters so you won't get the money back for these movies. Netflix invested in the content and banked on driving enough year long subscribers to pay for it and it worked. Now whether this business model works for DAZN or they go bankrupt in 5 years we will see. But they have the money for atleast the next 2-5 years and just started they investing billions in boxing and can easily pay Jacobs more then his 1.75M career pay lol If a super fight comes down the line where the guaranteed money becomes too ****** for an opponent they might increase subscription costs or add a PPV component to DAZN but something like that isn't needed for Jacobs because he's not a superstar just look at the ratings this weekend. Drew just 500K viewrs (his worst on HBO), and worst attendance/live gate (4,691). He's a 1M payday fighter that isn't seeing Canelo money fighting anyone else.

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    • Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
      Don't put words in his mouth that's not what he said. Had he said we are not taking less money we will fight WHOEVER brings the most money to table nobody would have a problem. Instead what he actually said is we won't fight Canelo unless we get the right price then goes on to talk about Charlo and GGG fights without mentioning any money demands. You know why? Because everyone knows if Canelo offers you the fight he will pay more money then Charlo or GGG fights. First you say well maybe he is just saying I have the IBF belt now so you need to increase my offer (pricing himself out) and that is my fear his belt means nothing Canelo is already lineal and beat the real champ to get his belts, jacobs is not even a mandatory for Canelo. If Jacobs thinks like you that he is bigger deal then he is and makes negotiations difficult like he did with the GGG fight then we likely won't see this fight in May. That's my point when B sides start talking like this to A sides it usually means the fight isn't happening or not happening right away.
      So you accuse me of putting words into his mouth and then follow that up by putting words into his mouth. Listen, when he referenced the "money being right" I interpret it as meaning being better than what he could get for the other two fights. You assume that a Canelo offer would be more than what he would be offered to fight Golovkin on say HBO or Charlo on Fox and that assumption drives your interpretation of what he means by "money being right". That's ok...I just don't make such an assumption and see it different.

      Here is what we know...either Alvarez will duck Charlo, fight Charlo, pay Jacobs, or fight Andrade (who may be all wrong for him stylistically) next May.

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      • Originally posted by Verus View Post
        Right, December it is. I think Canelo is eager to fight Danny Jacobs. I don't understand why Danny is not a bigger draw. He is a good fighter and has a compelling story. Right now both Canelo and Jacobs are at the top of their game.


        it's a great fight

        hope it happens

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        • FACT: we already know that Canelo will fight anyone

          FACT: we already know that Golovkin will not fight Charlo, Jacobs, Derevyanchenko, and Saunders

          so.....

          how could Canelo/Jacobs be a bad idea ?

          that is the exact fight that should happen next

          fcuk Golovkin, he simply does not deserve another Canelo payday

          let Jacobs eat..... same with the other guys who actually want to fight the best

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          • I am NOT a Golovkin fan

            based on that.....

            the best thing that happened this year is not Canelo beating Golovkin

            the best thing this year is Rob Brant beating Murata loooool

            Rob Brant is currently my favorite fighter ahahah

            whatcha gonna do now, Bullshltkin ?

            Brant showed good footwork and he (somehow) threw over 1200 punches..... so they will not fight him

            my guess is, fight yet another total scrub while they beg for Canelo..... glove up Vanes

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            • Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
              No network has invested more money into boxing right now then DAZN. You don't spend the money they spending and hand out the biggest contract in sports history to the biggest fighter in the world and then start counting pennies. They just launched in Sept but you think they out of money already and will now force Canelo to pay his opponents in canned goods? Stop it. It's like being the richest man out there and outbidding everyone for the biggest rock star to join your tour and then after paying all that money telling him well we can't afford your backup dancers who make peanuts. You hired the rock star to put on the show he already perfected you don't then tell him well you need to have no dancers, we can't afford the spotlights ect. They have over a billion invested in boxing but you think paying Jacobs 4M is the line in the sand they can't cross? LMAO

              They are trying to change the business model and become the Netflix of sports. You know how many people doubted Netflix when they decided to invest hundreds of millions on...TV shows. Everyone said what are they doing they on you don't have advertisers paying for these shows how can it work. Now you have Netflix paying and producing blockbuster level movies and folks said why they doing that these movies aren't going to Movie Theaters so you won't get the money back for these movies. Netflix invested in the content and banked on driving enough year long subscribers to pay for it and it worked. Now whether this business model works for DAZN or they go bankrupt in 5 years we will see. But they have the money for atleast the next 2-5 years and just started they investing billions in boxing and can easily pay Jacobs more then his 1.75M career pay lol If a super fight comes down the line where the guaranteed money becomes too ****** for an opponent they might increase subscription costs or add a PPV component to DAZN but something like that isn't needed for Jacobs because he's not a superstar just look at the ratings this weekend. Drew just 500K viewrs (his worst on HBO), and worst attendance/live gate (4,691). He's a 1M payday fighter that isn't seeing Canelo money fighting anyone else.
              All I'm pointing out are the economics of the deal; if Canelo is getting $33m a fight, and his opponent I getting commiserate value as you suggest, DAZN is committing itself to basically fronting $40m-$45m per Canelo fight. How many PPVs have generated $90m? lol. There's a threshold that you're willfully ignoring.

              Even your Netflix example doesn't hold up, lol. For all the money that Netflix has spent on TV programs, Netflix has gone on to cancel shows far sooner than almost anyone else in the name of saving money. They've put how much more money up now by bringing in content creators, but don't be ****** and think that they don't have outs ready.

              Daniel Jacobs and Sergey Derevyanchenko, according to the article on this site with the event ratings, split an alleged $3m on their fight. Do the work before you chat ****.

              Daniel Jacobs is IBF 160lb champion, seemingly just fought out the end of his deal with Hearn, and is still beyond friendly with Haymon and the affiliates; if Oscar comes with bull****, Jacobs and his camp will walk across the street and get paid elsewhere (looking down the ratings, Jacobs-Culcay is a fight that could fit well on FOX, draw well at Barclays Center, and also come with TV interest from Germany; with Jacobs getting a piece of everything).

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