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  • killakali
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    #51
    Originally posted by KTFOKING
    If GGG signs with ESPN? Sure, but has yet?

    So TR is going to give Zanfer 10-12 dates? Doubtful. But say Munguia isn't included are they going to not do business with them?

    Oh, see he has 4 years left now? His contract was extended by four years once he became champion? You got a source for that? Are fights added on your contract when you become a champion or fight for a title on most contracts? Sure, but don't say he has four years left when you don't know that.
    now your being a moron or lack comprehension skills. His contract would extend by TWO years but it wasn’t about to expire. So you know he has 3-4 years and possibly more. Stop being ******.

    And u are the one who started this convo by saying I should criticize Munguia for going to to ESPN instead of DAZN when Munguia didn’t decide anything and had no say.

    You tried to fit a square peg in a round hole to fit your agenda which makes u look ignorant to the boxing business.

    Charlo can sign with DAZN tomorrow if he wants to. Munguia can’t. End of story. Period. Point. Blank.

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      #52
      Originally posted by killakali
      now your being a moron or lack comprehension skills. His contract would extend by TWO years but it wasn’t about to expire. So you know he has 3-4 years and possibly more. Stop being ******.

      And u are the one who started this convo by saying I should criticize Munguia for going to to ESPN instead of DAZN when Munguia didn’t decide anything and had no say.

      You tried to fit a square peg in a round hole to fit your agenda which makes u look ignorant to the boxing business.

      Charlo can sign with DAZN tomorrow if he wants to. Munguia can’t. End of story. Period. Point. Blank.
      Nope, you were the one that came at Charlo and never mentioned Crawford signing with the PBC until I brought it up. You were forced to agree he should have, if people would say the same about Charlo to DAZN.

      Not every contract is extended by two years if they win the title. Now you are making things up. Can it be extended that much? Sure, but it could be extended for "X" number of fights or a year (s). You don't know what was extended from his deal or not.

      But yeah, I'm sure Munguia coming to ESPN is the difference between Zanfer getting 10-12 dates to barely any right?

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        #53
        Originally posted by KTFOKING
        Nope, you were the one that came at Charlo and never mentioned Crawford signing with the PBC until I brought it up. You were forced to agree he should have, if people would say the same about Charlo to DAZN.

        Not every contract is extended by two years if they win the title. Now you are making things up. Can it be extended that much? Sure, but it could be extended for "X" number of fights or a year (s). You don't know what was extended from his deal or not.

        But yeah, I'm sure Munguia coming to ESPN is the difference between Zanfer getting 10-12 dates to barely any right?
        u stay twisting the truth. When I said said Charlo needs to sign with DAZN I specifically mentioned Crawford. Saying those that criticized Crawford have to criticize Charlo. It was the whole premise for the post so now u are a flat out liar.

        Zanfer isn’t a new promoter. They for sure had a 2 year extension and maybe longer in mexico even. You act like Zanfer isn’t a profesional company that knows what they are doing. Haymon has the same extension in his contract to trap his clients as well it’s done by all promoters and defacto promoters.

        Of course espn is going to want Munguia as part of the deal but again Munguia doesnt have a choice where Charlo does.

        You failed miserably trying to fit this to your agenda.

        Munguia can’t fight on DAZN after zanfer signs him to espn and top rank just like leo santa Cruz can’t fight on espn tomorrow unless his master allows him to....

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          #54
          Originally posted by killakali
          u stay twisting the truth. When I said said Charlo needs to sign with DAZN I specifically mentioned Crawford. Saying those that criticized Crawford have to criticize Charlo. It was the whole premise for the post so now u are a flat out liar.

          Zanfer isn’t a new promoter. They for sure had a 2 year extension and maybe longer in mexico even. You act like Zanfer isn’t a profesional company that knows what they are doing. Haymon has the same extension in his contract to trap his clients as well it’s done by all promoters and defacto promoters.

          Of course espn is going to want Munguia as part of the deal but again Munguia doesnt have a choice where Charlo does.

          You failed miserably trying to fit this to your agenda.

          Munguia can’t fight on DAZN after zanfer signs him to espn and top rank just like leo santa Cruz can’t fight on espn tomorrow unless his master allows him to....
          No, I'm the one that said you were doing the same as those that criticize Crawford but give Charlo a pass for not signing with DAZN. You were forced to give in and say Crawford made a mistake re-upping with

          Haymon has advisory contracts, which aren't necessarily the same as promotional contracts. A contract doesn't need to just be extended by year (s), could be extended by fights. You don't know how much Munguia's contract was extended once he became champion.

          And here is the thing, Zanfer isn't exclusive to any network. He could absolutely have Munguia fight on DAZN and take the others to ESPN. You keep acting like ESPN has this deep stable which they do not. They lack in weight classes like 168 where Uzcategui would be so important to have. They are not going to not take him or Nery or Berchelt just because Munguia is signed elsewhere. Munguia needs to tell Zanfer to keep him with GBP/DAZN where he has endless options at 160.

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            #55
            Originally posted by KTFOKING
            No, I'm the one that said you were doing the same as those that criticize Crawford but give Charlo a pass for not signing with DAZN. You were forced to give in and say Crawford made a mistake re-upping with

            Haymon has advisory contracts, which aren't necessarily the same as promotional contracts. A contract doesn't need to just be extended by year (s), could be extended by fights. You don't know how much Munguia's contract was extended once he became champion.

            And here is the thing, Zanfer isn't exclusive to any network. He could absolutely have Munguia fight on DAZN and take the others to ESPN. You keep acting like ESPN has this deep stable which they do not. They lack in weight classes like 168 where Uzcategui would be so important to have. They are not going to not take him or Nery or Berchelt just because Munguia is signed elsewhere. Munguia needs to tell Zanfer to keep him with GBP/DAZN where he has endless options at 160.
            they have as much a 168 as anyone. No one is deep there lmao. DAZN has nothing but callum Smith. Pbc has the washed Dirrell Bros and washed degale and boring af plant. Espn has Zurdo and hart and McCumby.

            So don’t act like it’s a stacked division somewhere else.

            U don’t know much about Haymon evidently. WBC WBA IBA has stated several times thet haymon contracts have a two year extension after I win your first title. That’s standard just like Zanfer top rank Gbp etc.

            Nobody forced me into saying crawford should sign with anyone.

            My original thread said “all of those that criticized Crawford for resigning with top rank need to diss Charlo for not going to DAZN”. That’s a fact.

            Now u try to bring up munguia but your ignorance to the business of boxing shines through because u still can’t comprehend that Munguia has zero say in what network he fights on. Just like Dominic Breazeale didn’t get to pick that his next fight is on fox.

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              #56
              Originally posted by killakali
              they have as much a 168 as anyone. No one is deep there lmao. DAZN has nothing but callum Smith. Pbc has the washed Dirrell Bros and washed degale and boring af plant. Espn has Zurdo and hart and McCumby.

              So don’t act like it’s a stacked division somewhere else.

              U don’t know much about Haymon evidently. WBC WBA IBA has stated several times thet haymon contracts have a two year extension after I win your first title. That’s standard just like Zanfer top rank Gbp etc.

              Nobody forced me into saying crawford should sign with anyone.

              My original thread said “all of those that criticized Crawford for resigning with top rank need to diss Charlo for not going to DAZN”. That’s a fact.

              Now u try to bring up munguia but your ignorance to the business of boxing shines through because u still can’t comprehend that Munguia has zero say in what network he fights on. Just like Dominic Breazeale didn’t get to pick that his next fight is on fox.
              Um what? 168 isn't deep correct, but ESPN doesn't have many options for Zurdo stop kidding yourself. They need someone like Uzcategui and that is why they were after Benavidez and thought they had him signed at one point.

              I know what it states on Haymon's contracts as everyone does who read Hauser's article on him. I also said his advisory contracts aren't necessarily the same as promotional contracts. Haymon operates in years while there are plenty of promotional contracts that go off of set amount of fights. When Hearn is offering Broner a contract, he is offering him a three fight deal opposed to Haymon who would be offering him a five year term. So no, promotional and Haymon advisory contracts are not the same.

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                #57
                Originally posted by KTFOKING
                Um what? 168 isn't deep correct, but ESPN doesn't have many options for Zurdo stop kidding yourself. They need someone like Uzcategui and that is why they were after Benavidez and thought they had him signed at one point.

                I know what it states on Haymon's contracts as everyone does who read Hauser's article on him. I also said his advisory contracts aren't necessarily the same as promotional contracts. Haymon operates in years while there are plenty of promotional contracts that go off of set amount of fights. When Hearn is offering Broner a contract, he is offering him a three fight deal opposed to Haymon who would be offering him a five year term. So no, promotional and Haymon advisory contracts are not the same.
                again u leave out facts. Canelo signed a 4 year extension. Crawford a 2 year extension. Those ARE the same as Haymon. How many Zanfer guys do u see leave in their 20s? NONE. Munguia is locked in. Nice try though.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by killakali
                  again u leave out facts. Canelo signed a 4 year extension. Crawford a 2 year extension. Those ARE the same as Haymon. How many Zanfer guys do u see leave in their 20s? NONE. Munguia is locked in. Nice try though.
                  What the hell are you talking about now? What does the extension of Canelo and Crawford have to do with extensions off competing for titles or winning a title? Haymon deals are not necessarily the same as promotional deals. Did Crawford and Canelo sign for multiple years instead of fights? Sure, but that doesn't mean all promotional deals work that way. Plenty go off set amount of fights. So when you say Munguia's deal was extended by two years after winning the title, you have no idea if that is true or not. You don't know how much the deal was extended by or if it is off "x" amount of fights or multiple years.

                  Haymon contracts could also be extended if the fighter is one of the top earners in their weight class. So yeah, his contracts aren't the same as promotional contracts.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by KTFOKING
                    What the hell are you talking about now? What does the extension of Canelo and Crawford have to do with extensions off competing for titles or winning a title? Haymon deals are not necessarily the same as promotional deals. Did Crawford and Canelo sign for multiple years instead of fights? Sure, but that doesn't mean all promotional deals work that way. Plenty go off set amount of fights. So when you say Munguia's deal was extended by two years after winning the title, you have no idea if that is true or not. You don't know how much the deal was extended by or if it is off "x" amount of fights or multiple years.

                    Haymon contracts could also be extended if the fighter is one of the top earners in their weight class. So yeah, his contracts aren't the same as promotional contracts.
                    haymons contracts are the same as top rank and golden boy. They almost always are for extra years. Haymon never guarantees x amount fights per year. That’s why guys like tank Davis are only fighting once this year.

                    Canelo and crawford signed the same type of extension that haymons gives out.

                    Munguia is locked in at least another 3 years get over it.

                    Stop deflecting. U started this convo saying Munguia shouldn’t agree to go to espn when the kid has no choice. I have educated yourself. Now take what U have learned and grow from it. Munguia has no choice.

                    U can say Zanfer didn’t make the best decision But u and I don’t have all the intimate details. If we did maybe it makes sense.

                    You trying to put Munguia in your agenda to defend Charlo to stay at pbc where he fights Heiland centeno and Monroe is your agenda. Not mine or any other real fans.

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