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  • Shadoww702
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    #121
    Originally posted by Bronx2245
    That's my point! Crawford and Mikey are much closer in size, and they BOTH have NOT proved anything at 147! That's why I posed the question, "Why is Spence vs. Garcia a mismatch, but SPence vs. Crawford is not?"
    Usually your on point homie but WTF are you smoking???

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    • killakali
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      #122
      Originally posted by Shadoww702
      Thats a BIG difference...
      exactly bro

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      • NearHypnos
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        #123
        Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
        I'll agree with you as far as Crawford is concerned Spence straight ducking him and won't even mention his name.

        But everything else you said is garbage.

        Danny has absolutely no intention of ever fighting Spence and the same goes for Keith and Porter.

        Keith's Spence ducking is well documented, and Porter straight ducked a unification.

        Before the wbc convention wbc present Sulaiman came out and made it clear that he saw no problem granting porter a unfication fight if porter made the request.

        After the wbc convention the wbc ordered porter to make two mandatory defenses.

        You know what that means right?

        Porter didn't make the ****ing request even though he knew that Spence called him out and wanted the fight.

        Now go back to Porter-Garcia post fight conference.

        Porter, when asked about unifying with Spence, said that the wbc might have other plans for him and that if the unification fight doesn't happen neither he nor Spence should be blamed.

        But common sense and the wbc historic record, and what Sulaiman said after that (about porter making the request) proves that Porter was full of shieet and just laying a nice, soft pillow for himself to land on after his duck.

        The wbc has NEVER interfered with a unification bout in that way.

        The wbc will manipulate, bend, and even outright ignore their own rules for the sake of a big fight, or a unification fight.

        We saw them suspend all of Adonis Stevenson's mandatory obligations for years because they wanted to make sure Stevenson was available for the Kovalev unification fight. We saw the same guys bend rules and ignore rules to make sure Canelo vs GGG 1 and Canelo vs GGG 2 happen. They did the same in the Floyd Mayweather vs Maidana rematch situation when they ordered that Mayweather defend both his 147 AND 154 belt in that single welterweight bout, to make sure Floyd didn't have a mandatory obligation for his next fight, so that the Pac fight can be made.

        So trust me, Porter is the reason Porter vs Spence is not next. Remember Spence called him out and outright said even though Mikey Garcia is a bigger name and therefore a bigger fight, that Porter is the guy he wants to fight.

        Porter tried to use the wbc as a scapegoat, but Sulaiman gave Porter a way to make it happen, and Porter kept his mouth shut.

        Porter and Keith, don't tell me about those clowns. Spence is absolutely NOT to blame for those fights not happening.

        Danny won't fight Spence we all know that. He wouldn't even fight Porter until the wbc gave him no choice by ordering the fight.

        But you're right about the Crawford situation. I doubt Arum is serious about making the fight, but Spence was supposed to call his bluff and didn't. He kept his mouth shut. He straight ducking in my book.
        Honestly, as much as I’d like to agree with you, Spence seems to be the common denominator in no big fights happening. The other guys are all fighting top guys and fighting each other. When it comes to Danny and Porter, I give them the benefit of the doubt because they’ve fought some good fighters.

        Porter has fought every top welter outside if Pac and now Spence. Hasnt wont em all, but he’s never shown to be one to not make the tough fights.

        Spence on the other hand is starting to seem GGGesque on his stature to make the big fights when the only one he’s looked to is two weight classes down? Why would I give the bebefit of the doubt to the one NOT fighting the tough guys?

        It’s not that I doubt Spence’s heart or skill as a fighter but he needa to be more practice in securing or demanding the meaningful fights and put his foot down. Thats where the criticism stems from.

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        • HAY-B
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          #124
          Originally posted by Shadoww702
          That at least helps Mikey a lil. but depending how early it is he can easily add another 5 lbs before the fight.
          This is true, the water weight could be there. However, can his body process the added fluids to where he's at full strength.
          I give Mikey all the props and respect in the world for taking this fight.

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          • Sledgeweather17
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            #125
            Originally posted by NearHypnos
            Honestly, as much as I’d like to agree with you, Spence seems to be the common denominator in no big fights happening. The other guys are all fighting top guys and fighting each other. When it comes to Danny and Porter, I give them the benefit of the doubt because they’ve fought some good fighters.

            Porter has fought every top welter outside if Pac and now Spence. Hasnt wont em all, but he’s never shown to be one to not make the tough fights.

            Spence on the other hand is starting to seem GGGesque on his stature to make the big fights when the only one he’s looked to is two weight classes down? Why would I give the bebefit of the doubt to the one NOT fighting the tough guys?

            It’s not that I doubt Spence’s heart or skill as a fighter but he needa to be more practice in securing or demanding the meaningful fights and put his foot down. Thats where the criticism stems from.
            Spence fought the toughest guy in Kell Brook.

            People act like Brook was a pussie after the fact but before Brook fought GGG most people ranked him as the best in the division.

            And remember that same Brook defeated Shawn Porter, and Spence KOd that Kell Brook.

            Dude I can't accept your logic. Porter is terrified of Spence and the evidence is blatant. Everytime they ask him about Spence he come out with excuses, lame ones too. There is NO world where Spence is to blame for that fight not happening, same for Keith Thurman.

            You could argue he hasn't gone after Danny, but Danny has no belt and we all know that Spence wants to unify.

            There is no GGG comparison. GGG was called out and straight ducked Ward and Lara with the high risk low reward excuses. GGG didn't even mention Jacobs again when the victory was clearly in dispute and a rematch was required to clear the air. GGG's team started making excuses for not fighting Charlo as soon as Charlo moved up and became his mandatory challenger.

            Spence has only done that with Crawford, every other fighter he has called out and directly confronted and it is THEY who have made the excuses and avoided him. He's not to blame gtfoh with that crap.

            I blame him for the Crawford situation though. He blatantly be making excuses to postpone that one.

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            • Bronx2245
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              #126
              Originally posted by killakali
              BECAUSE Crawford started 2 weight classes HIGHER at 135 and NOT at 126
              Where did Pacquiao start?

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              • Bronx2245
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                #127
                Originally posted by Shadoww702
                Usually your on point homie but WTF are you smoking???
                That Gas, but that's besides the point! Mikey and Crawford are both former Jr. WW Champions who have proved nothing at 147! I don't consider Horn or Benavidez great tests at 147! Until I see Bud face a legit opponent @147, I see him and Mikey as equals! I don't see either f**king with Errol! Therefore I don't see why people have a problem with Mikey fighting Spence. Does Mikey need to fight Devon Alexander or Victor Ortiz first? I don't think so. "Swing for the fences!"

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                • killakali
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245
                  Where did Pacquiao start?
                  And pacquia isn’t fighting Spence.

                  And Pacquiao is an ATG. Horrible comparison. Floyd and Oscar both started at 130. Crawford started higher than all them.

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                  • The Problem Child
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                    #129
                    Won’t believe Mickey Mouse Fantasia until I see him in the ring against Spence.

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                    • pasawayako
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                      #130
                      I wish mikey beat spence and then fight pac after.

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