Comments Thread For: Murata: I'm Not Good With Quick Feet Fighters, I Took a Beating

[Zn1]

Ggg was trying to cherrypick murata the wba regular champ,yet Canelo gets shtted on for moving up to face the wba regular champ@ 168.

I think all cherrypicks get shat on by somebody somewhere, even the so called biggest fight of the year is an attempted cherry pick by Team Wilder...sadly that's how fights usually get made, one guy looking to cherry pick and the other looking for a career changing upset victory.

Usyk has just done the same thing with Bellew

[kushking]

I think all cherrypicks get shat on by somebody somewhere, even the so called biggest fight of the year is an attempted cherry pick by Team Wilder...sadly that's how fights usually get made, one guy looking to cherry pick and the other looking for a career changing upset victory.

Usyk has just done the same thing with Bellew

How does that even compare honestly? I see your point about fighters ALWAYS weighing risk v reward,but I truly think ggg(& his team) has sold everyone some mexican style monster who takes on all comers & fights for"honor" or "purity" or some such sht, yet at every step of the way he contradicts all of it in its entirety,& worse yet,him & his followers/coach/media etc., etc. constantly make claims about him & his "rivals" that are complete BS.

Take for example Canelo who at 28 has already accomplished far more than ggg yet continues to dare to be great,while ggg( & several others) just got done losing to Canelo,& instead of redeeming himself vs Charlo for vacating his belt like a hypocrite,he instead was once again trying to take the easiest opponent possible in Murata. And his fanbois don't see the irony of hating on ginger fighting giant Fielding.

You can't make this sht up,truth is stranger than fiction.

[Zn1]

How does that even compare honestly? I see your point about fighters ALWAYS weighing risk v reward,but I truly think ggg(& his team) has sold everyone some mexican style monster who takes on all comers & fights for"honor" or "purity" or some such sht, yet at every step of the way he contradicts all of it in its entirety,& worse yet,him & his followers/coach/media etc., etc. constantly make claims about him & his "rivals" that are complete BS.

Take for example Canelo who at 28 has already accomplished far more than ggg yet continues to dare to be great,while ggg( & several others) just got done losing to Canelo,& instead of redeeming himself vs Charlo for vacating his belt like a hypocrite,he instead was once again trying to take the easiest opponent possible in Murata. And his fanbois don't see the irony of hating on ginger fighting giant Fielding.

You can't make this sht up,truth is stranger than fiction.

I'm not a fan of Golovkin especially, but I feel they're 1-1 not 1-0-1 right now, I just can't see how Canelo got a draw out of their first fight.

Is Murata really as bad as Fielding though? I've seen most if not all of Rocky's pro career and he is pretty **** overall. I know he holds a world title but really he's domestic/european level and a bit too chinny for the weight class.

[Zn1]

How does that even compare honestly? I see your point about fighters ALWAYS weighing risk v reward,but I truly think ggg(& his team) has sold everyone some mexican style monster who takes on all comers & fights for"honor" or "purity" or some such sht, yet at every step of the way he contradicts all of it in its entirety,& worse yet,him & his followers/coach/media etc., etc. constantly make claims about him & his "rivals" that are complete BS.

Take for example Canelo who at 28 has already accomplished far more than ggg yet continues to dare to be great,while ggg( & several others) just got done losing to Canelo,& instead of redeeming himself vs Charlo for vacating his belt like a hypocrite,he instead was once again trying to take the easiest opponent possible in Murata. And his fanbois don't see the irony of hating on ginger fighting giant Fielding.

You can't make this sht up,truth is stranger than fiction.

I'm not convinced Canelo has had the better career either .. Golovkin defended his belt 20 times? and regardless of the fact that the Canelo or Jacobs fights were close, he came through them both even though he looked slower, more shopworn and a bit too predictable. Not sure how a draw is a negative for Golovkin but a positive for Canelo either (especially given how many felt Golovkin won)

[TonyGe]

Yea, Brant definitely deserves credit for sticking to his work in every single round. I was impressed by his discipline when faced with a guy who had been hyped up.

He ate some really solid punches and didn't back off. Well done..

[JLC]

You are seriously trying to say Ward deserved to win the first fight? Lol...one of the clearest robberies in all of sports that I can ever recall. And second fight there was a lot of controversy there as well...Ward was getting outboxed again probably 5-2 before the controversial stoppage, hardly something to brag about...

What ? When did I brag on Ward?

What I said was don’t give any credit to Kov for going 12 w a 53 year old man.

[TonyGe]

How does that even compare honestly? I see your point about fighters ALWAYS weighing risk v reward,but I truly think ggg(& his team) has sold everyone some mexican style monster who takes on all comers & fights for"honor" or "purity" or some such sht, yet at every step of the way he contradicts all of it in its entirety,& worse yet,him & his followers/coach/media etc., etc. constantly make claims about him & his "rivals" that are complete BS.

Take for example Canelo who at 28 has already accomplished far more than ggg yet continues to dare to be great,while ggg( & several others) just got done losing to Canelo,& instead of redeeming himself vs Charlo for vacating his belt like a hypocrite,he instead was once again trying to take the easiest opponent possible in Murata. And his fanbois don't see the irony of hating on ginger fighting giant Fielding.

You can't make this sht up,truth is stranger than fiction.

Use some common sense. One guy is in his absolute prime the other is past it.

[Boxing-1013]

What ? When did I brag on Ward?

What I said was don’t give any credit to Kov for going 12 w a 53 year old man.

'You’ve got no room insulting ward for decisioning him and stopping him in back to back fights.'

I mean, you said that to another poster. ^

Going into that fight most people were picking Hopkins to win...so yeah he was 49 for that fight...but Hopkins had just beaten Shumenov, Cloud and Murat, three really good fighters. And Kov hurt Bhop in round 1 and afterwards Hopkins went into survival mode and hardly scored any points in a 12-0 shutout...would have been more impressive had Bhop been younger but he wasn't done before that fight. Still a very good win for someone.

[JLC]

'You’ve got no room insulting ward for decisioning him and stopping him in back to back fights.'

I mean, you said that to another poster. ^

Going into that fight most people were picking Hopkins to win...so yeah he was 49 for that fight...but Hopkins had just beaten Shumenov, Cloud and Murat, three really good fighters. And Kov hurt Bhop in round 1 and afterwards Hopkins went into survival mode and hardly scored any points in a 12-0 shutout...would have been more impressive had Bhop been younger but he wasn't done before that fight. Still a very good win for someone.

That’s not a defense. You’ve got no room insulting Ward for not only survivng, but defeating kovalev twoce, while praising Kovalev for not putting away a FIFTY YEAR OLD FIGHTER. I’m simply stating nobody has business propping up Kovs win over Bernard. Especially while backhandedly insulting Ward for going 12, then stopping Kovalev I’m back to back fights. I’m not defending anyone, but if either of these scenarios deserves insulting it’s Kov vs Hopkins. If anything deserves a pat on the back it’s Ward vs Kov.

No way. No way. No way Hopkins was the favorite coming into that fight. I would love for someone to go back and find the official odds for that fight. There is always SOMEBODY who believes in the underdog, so saying people thought he would win is pointless. But Hopkins wasn’t and shouldn’t have been the favorite at 50 years old. You’re making stuff up. Or reaching.


Matter of fact I looked it up myself. Kovalev was a 3-1 favorite to win a fight bs a 50 year old man who had 0 chance of winning by knockout. And that 50 year old man went the full 12.

[Boxing-1013]

That’s not a defense. You’ve got no room insulting Ward for not only survivng, but defeating kovalev twoce, while praising Kovalev for not putting away a FIFTY YEAR OLD FIGHTER. I’m simply stating nobody has business propping up Kovs win over Bernard. Especially while backhandedly insulting Ward for going 12, then stopping Kovalev I’m back to back fights. I’m not defending anyone, but if either of these scenarios deserves insulting it’s Kov vs Hopkins. If anything deserves a pat on the back it’s Ward vs Kov.

No way. No way. No way Hopkins was the favorite coming into that fight. I would love for someone to go back and find the official odds for that fight. There is always SOMEBODY who believes in the underdog, so saying people thought he would win is pointless. But Hopkins wasn’t and shouldn’t have been the favorite at 50 years old. You’re making stuff up. Or reaching.


Matter of fact I looked it up myself. Kovalev was a 3-1 favorite to win a fight bs a 50 year old man who had 0 chance of winning by knockout. And that 50 year old man went the full 12.

Wow you're a weird guy and a complete liar. Called out on your lie and then try and double down on it while denying you said it. I just explained why Kov's win over Bhop was solid and you didn't address any of that. No one had ever stopped Bhop up until that point. He was 49 years old by the way, and you initially said he was 53, now 50. You're just a liar who twists the facts to suit his narrative.



Kov was also a 2/1 - 2.5/1 favorite with most sportsbooks, not 3/1...why lie? And maybe you're new to following boxing but most fans seemed to think Hopkins was going to win that fight...he had just pulled off a couple upsets going into it and a lot of people who follow boxing thought he would be too crafty for a fairly green Kovalev.

Also you tried to slip in again that Ward beat Kovalev in the first fight...when you just admitted that wasn't true and you know that it isn't true.
Hopkins did marginally worse than Ward did (first fight) (scores in those two fights should have probably been 11-1 and 9-3 Kov, with Hop and Ward both getting knocked down) with Kovalev...that's embarrassing for Ward not Hopkins or Kovalev.

Anyway I wasn't the one making the initial point about Ward/Hopkins/Kovalev but you seem to struggle with the facts so work on that then we can communicate on here.