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  • Laligalaliga
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    #191
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    Wilder's filed purse for his most recent fight was 2.1 million. Crawford's filed purse for his most recent fight was 2 million.

    But Crawford's actual purse was a guaranteed minimum of 3.625 million.

    Why do you believe that Wilder's filed purse is accurate when it's been so common for 70 years for US stars to file bogus purses?
    Lolx.... You also seems to be the only one on the forum that knows wilders filed purse.... Lolx.

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    • Laligalaliga
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      #192
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
      Empty rhetoric. Boxing has four recognized world titles and the IBO isn't one of them. Sorry. Nobody considers the IBO a world title other than AJ fans that have been brainwashed.
      Lolx.... Just the way you are entitled to wilders filed purse, am also entitled to recognize the IBO as a recognized world title and a history of others recognize it as well.

      A real champ is carrying it so the champ makes the belt.

      Take it or leave it, it doesn't change anything.

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      • fernandtg
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        #193
        Originally posted by Kilrain
        It's actually irrelevant how much Wilder has earned from a single fight to date. Fact is, this is a hugely anticipated showdown because of BOTH Joshua and Wilder. It's a collision between unbeaten belt-holders and Wilder should get what he's due. 55-45 Joshua is fair, 60-40 is unfair if Wilder is coming off a big win over Fury. Let's face it, a win over Fury trumps anything Joshua has achieved to this point. (Best win is an inactive, coming-off-a-loss Klitschko, who was 41 years old.)

        If Wilder devastatingly knocks out Fury and the fight does good business, he deserves 50-50 because that win will get even more buys for AJ-Wilder. AJ hasn't had a flashy exciting win for a while now.
        A win over current Fury means less than beating Wlad, even at 41. A win over current Fury means about the same as Joshua beating Parker in their unification fight: not much at all.

        If Wilder-Fury does extremely good numbers, the a 60-40 split is reasonable. How is Joshua earning 60% in a Wilder fight unreasonable? He brings to the table a belt and an unbeaten record, just like Parker.

        The only real difference is the threat level, which is much higher against Wilder, and that sells. Still, no way in hell Wilder deserves 45% against Joshua.

        Wilder is a dumb ****. He should accept a 35 split and put Joshua to sleep, then lowball them in the rematch negotiations. I’m pretty convince that Wilder would destroy him; too stiff to stop Wilder from doing real damage early in the fight.

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        • kafkod
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          #194
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
          Not strange at all and Warren didn't let anything slip. Hearn is a master manipulator, but he can't twist something someone says and misrepresent something someone says until that person says it first.

          Hearn knows his followers aren't so bright, so it's easy to convince them others said things they didn't actually say. If you go look at what Warren said and what Hearn tried to twist it into, it was two completely different things.

          Any time Hearn tried to use the UK broadcaster as an excuse to kill the fight, Finkel made it clear that Wilder couldn't care less who showed the fight in the UK, as long as they paid fair value. Unless Finkel gets a bid from BT, how is he supposed to know whether Sky is offering fair market value?
          Finkel and Warren are 2 of the most notorious liars in the game. Both have been sued for ripping off their own fighters and Warren was shot in the head and almost killed by one of them!

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          • Mr. Philadel
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            #195
            What’s wrong with 50/50?!?...They’re both capable of sleeping the other...they both will still likely be undefeated world champs and MOST of all... THEY NEED EACH OTHER!!...if they don’t fight each other both of their careers will be tarnished...nobody will care about the negotiations...unless one of them pulls a Rid**** Bowe and publicly avoid the smoke...BOTH careers will be tarnished...mark my words!..This is a blood sport..nobody cares about the typed up paperwork...we just wanna see one King...50/50 fight all the way around!!

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            • Zn1
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              #196
              Originally posted by fernandtg
              A win over current Fury means less than beating Wlad, even at 41. A win over current Fury means about the same as Joshua beating Parker in their unification fight: not much at all.

              If Wilder-Fury does extremely good numbers, the a 60-40 split is reasonable. How is Joshua earning 60% in a Wilder fight unreasonable? He brings to the table a belt and an unbeaten record, just like Parker.

              The only real difference is the threat level, which is much higher against Wilder, and that sells. Still, no way in hell Wilder deserves 45% against Joshua.

              Wilder is a dumb ****. He should accept a 35 split and put Joshua to sleep, then lowball them in the rematch negotiations. I’m pretty convince that Wilder would destroy him; too stiff to stop Wilder from doing real damage early in the fight.
              Wilder's now insisting on 50% and only offered that to be fair to AJ, he feels it should actually be 60/40 in his favour.

              I do agree about your prediction on the fight, AJ will have to be switched on right from the opening bell and probably for the first 4 rds at least, what we saw last time out didn't suggest he can do that and Wilder may well just run him over. Wouldn't be shocked to see Wilder end up flat on his face early either though, AJ can definitely **** and surely will know Deontay's going to start quickly, so he would've been drilling the most effective counters to that right hand throughout his camp (presumably)
              Last edited by Zn1; 10-22-2018, 04:43 PM.

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              • fernandtg
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                #197
                Originally posted by Mr. Philadel
                What’s wrong with 50/50?!?...They’re both capable of sleeping the other...they both will still likely be undefeated world champs and MOST of all... THEY NEED EACH OTHER!!...if they don’t fight each other both of their careers will be tarnished...nobody will care about the negotiations...unless one of them pulls a Rid**** Bowe and publicly avoid the smoke...BOTH careers will be tarnished...mark my words!..This is a blood sport..nobody cares about the typed up paperwork...we just wanna see one King...50/50 fight all the way around!!
                Is this a serious question? If you are objectively selling most of the seats and PPV sales, why would you earn the same as your opponent, who brings just one of the belts and a whole lot of risk of losing?

                If you sell much more, you should definitely be entitled to earn much more as well. 75-35 or 60-40 would fall in the fair range.

                Wilder could also demand the lion’s share in the rematch.

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                • fernandtg
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                  #198
                  Originally posted by Mr. Philadel
                  What’s wrong with 50/50?!?...They’re both capable of sleeping the other...they both will still likely be undefeated world champs and MOST of all... THEY NEED EACH OTHER!!...if they don’t fight each other both of their careers will be tarnished...nobody will care about the negotiations...unless one of them pulls a Rid**** Bowe and publicly avoid the smoke...BOTH careers will be tarnished...mark my words!..This is a blood sport..nobody cares about the typed up paperwork...we just wanna see one King...50/50 fight all the way around!!
                  Is this a serious question? If you are objectively selling most of the seats and PPV sales, why would you earn the same as your opponent, who brings just one of the belts and a whole lot of risk of losing?

                  If you sell much more, you should definitely be entitled to earn much more as well. 75-35 or 60-40 would fall in the fair range.

                  Wilder could also demand the lion’s share in the rematch.

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                  • PunchyPotorff
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                    #199
                    If Wilder ran his fat pie hole 1/10th as much, and lost 90% of his insane ego, the boxing world would be a much better place to dwell. Just hope between Fury and/or Joshua, they turn the lights out on the wacko.

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                      #200
                      Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                      am also entitled to recognize the IBO as a recognized world title
                      You can choose to recognize whatever you wish, but the fact remains it's not a recognized title.

                      I personally don't recognize the WBA or WBO, but it doesn't change the fact that the boxing world does recognize them. The WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO are the only recognized world titles in boxing. All four recognize each other and nobody else. Those are the four the TV networks and promoters recognize.

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