Comments Thread For: Hearn Erupts: Wilder Wants 60-40 For Joshua? F*** Off!

[Laligalaliga]

Doesn't matter what you or I rate them. The marketplace decides that for itself. For various reasons, the marketplace has clearly decided the WBC world championship is the most respected, recognized and valued and the WBO world championship is the least respected, recognized and valued.

If they're all worthless to you, no problem. I'm personally rooting for them to all go out of business.

Again you are wrong. It's people like you that is trying to make the green belt bigger than others while it is well proven they are the most corrupt.

You can't sell these BS any more to fans out there. They are wiser now.

[Laligalaliga]

Canelo, the biggest cash cow in boxing, was stripped by the WBC for refusing to face GGG. Something many insisted the WBC would never do. But they kept their word, even though it took money out of their pocket. GGG fans have no right to complain about the WBC. They bent over backwards by allowing GGG to unify his world titles with the WBC's interim title, something usually not allowed and they kept their word and awarded GGG the WBC world championship when Canelo wouldn't fight him.

How in the world was GGG thrown under the bus by the WBC?!?




They cater to the big stars and the big stars aren't always the best fighters. The WBC's prestige doesn't come from necessarily always having the top fighter, their prestige comes from having been formed by soooooo many countries around the world, having the NYSAC title merged into their title, being founded by the EBU, which dates back to the IBU, being founded by the BBBoC, which dates back to the NSC, etc etc.

It's hard for the IBF & WBO to compete when they didn't exist for so many of the biggest fights of all time. In many places around the world, the WBC and the WBA will always be held in higher esteem due to being the originals and the WBC has an advantage because the NYSAC title was more respected than the NBA title, and the WBA had a huge bribery scandal that exposed all their ratings being bought and paid for, while the WBC has never had a bribery scandal.

All of the organizations are awful and I hope they go out of business, but the WBC has done a great job of marketing that green and gold belt and that's the belt fighters grow up dreaming of winning. That's the belt that's been involved in most of the biggest fights of all time.

The WBC also has the advantage of their heavyweight champions being undefeated in unification fights. Which helped enhance the idea that the WBC championship was the true championship of boxing.

All this is meaningless. Who holds the belts is what matters not the 1001 countries that form the belts. There is no prestige so far in sulaimon leadership of the wbc. I still rate IBO rankings to that shyte.

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All this is meaningless. Who holds the belts is what matters not the 1001 countries that form the belts.

Thank you for your uneducated amateur opinion.

Those who control the sport couldn't disagree more. History has shown fighters are largely interchangeable with the exception of a handful of superstars. Otherwise, the belts are all that matters. The networks buy the fights of whoever has the belt and couldn't care less otherwise. Who holds the title doesn't matter as long as the network gets a title fight.

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you LITERALLY just told me that something that is not definitive, should not be favored as highly as something else..... that is not definitive either

I said nothing about should. I said is. The WBC is more prestigious, respected and valued in the marketplace than the WBO. Has nothing to do with how I think things should be. I think all of the sanctioning bodies should be run out of business. Networks should refuse to buy any fights that have any sanctioning body titles anywhere on the card.

But how I think things should be and how things are are two different things. Don't blame me for the WBC being the most valuable. That's just how it's always been.

[Laligalaliga]

Thank you for your uneducated amateur opinion.

Those who control the sport couldn't disagree more. History has shown fighters are largely interchangeable with the exception of a handful of superstars. Otherwise, the belts are all that matters. The networks buy the fights of whoever has the belt and couldn't care less otherwise. Who holds the title doesn't matter as long as the network gets a title fight.

You claim to know much but trust me the only thing you know is been biased and very sentimental in your analysis.

If the boxing world don't care about the belts and it's importance is not recognized by the holder, why keep bring new belts?

For your information, a fighter without a belt is a contender.

Beside why do fighters want to be undisputed if the belts mean shyte?

Be guided.

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You claim to know much but trust me the only thing you know is been biased and very sentimental in your analysis.

If the boxing world don't care about the belts and it's importance is not recognized by the holder, why keep bring new belts?

For your information, a fighter without a belt is a contender.

Beside why do fighters want to be undisputed if the belts mean shyte?

Be guided.

I don't think you know how to read. I'm arguing that the belts are all that matter and you come to the conclusion that I'm arguing that nobody cares about the belts.

[Laligalaliga]

I don't think you know how to read. I'm arguing that the belts are all that matter and you come to the conclusion that I'm arguing that nobody cares about the belts.

Whoever holds the major belts is the best and has done more to unify the division.

I still believe the fighter makes the belt not the other way.

So this wbc shyte is more prestigious than other belts is just fallacy created by people like you for your personal agenda.

[yammy25]

There IS a difference, and it was proven recently by BJS.

You're an idiot...

Wilder has not been tested outside of camp In the 365 program.. he states he has only been tested in the lead up to fights. So theoretically he too could cycle!!

AJ pays for VADA to test him in camp. The same VADA that Saunders signed up to voluntarily for the Andrade fight and got caught by !!

There isn't a difference when the testing body is the ****ing same ..and the fighters are only getting tested in the lead up to fights whether they're paying for VADA like AJ or part of the WBC CBP like wilder.

The only difference is certain substances being banned by VADA that aren't by UKAD hence the BJS issue.. but AJ pays for VADA testing so he will be subject to the strictest ban list

[Jax teller]

It's standard procedure to put language guaranteeing a fight will be next. Wilder's offer to AJ had that language. Are you trying to claim Hearn accidentally left that language out? When it was brought to his attention by Finkel, why didn't he send a new version 5 minutes later with one sentence added? Why did he instead say give me a few days and I'll have a date for you? Only to then admit a few days later the date was April? What about his behavior logically indicated he wanted the fight before Povetkin instead of after?

Logically he wouldn't have got the mando delayed if he wanted Povetkin. Logically Wilder would have asked for the dates or next fight instead of sitting on it after the Mando was announced, you haven't addressed this.

You're so see through.

[Jax teller]

Know the date or venue when? When Fury agreed to the fight? No. Long before it was announced? Yes.

Why did you cut out the bit with the answer to your questions?

Wilder and Fury said the fight was made but not signed. It then took over a month for anything official this is when Hearn said about them managing to agree a fight with out a date or venue. They took over a month to sign because they had to sort date an venue according to Warren & Wilder. Finkel said that he knew the date and venue all along. What don't you understand?