Honestly, Eddie Hearn is doing what PBC should have from the jump

[Eff Pandas]

this is what DAZN under Hearns blue print is actually doing.

Hearn's blueprint lmfao. Jesus MF Christ bro you are all up Hearn's ass.

Hearn's "blueprint" is EVERYONE's blueprint. Every boxing promoter who's got a TV deal is keeping it moving (except PBC, which I have been complaining about for the last 2 days cuz its a non-productive ****** square peg in a round hole way of doing sh^t). Bud has a tentative date in Apr/May already & he just fought. Loma was still officially injured with a Dec. date & had a hard date within a week or two of being cleared to fight. The move with promoters is to keep your biggest names with fights penciled in. Hearn is just following a standard run of the mill boxing promoter bluepring with this strategy.

[MasterPlan]

If I had a dollar for every time a hater said PBC was "going outta business" or "dead" or a non-PBC hater was saying "everything is bout to be working" I'd be the Bill Gates of sh^ttalking on Boxing Forums.

I'll believe it when I see it. I love the PBC roster. I think Al Haymon is such a genuine good guy who cares about his fighters he might legit be a myth cuz surely no one like that can really exist lol. But I don't believe PBC has a clue in the world what boxing fans want or if they do they don't seem to have that high on their to do list & thats a problem for them catching fire & its why they've never really caught fire with fans despite the best roster in the game. It just shows you can have the best roster in the game, but if you don't make the fights it's not gonna have as much upside as it could.



I'll take the over on "any day now" lol.



Go look at 2015 & 2016. They had dates galore. And guys still were in limbo for too long. This isn't a dates thing. These guys are shuffling the deck with venues til the last minute or got something going on differently behind the scenes cuz these guys can't even control keeping their own fighters in the cycle enough.

And maybe thats simply because Haymon has 200 or however many guys. Maybe thats why Spence is 4 months from his last fight & still w/o a fight.



Again they had 40+ cards in 2015 & 2016 I'm almost positive (if it wasn't such a hassle to count them with all the different promoters I'd go look it up real quick). Idk about 2017 & 2018. I've followed the overall flow of the PBC product less in the last couple years. So fair play with this specific point in time between deals, but the problem is when they weren't between deals they weren't doing a whole lot that made sense & controlled the narrative so following the you can't teach an old dog new tricks theory I tend to believe nothing will change.

Those 40+ dates were time buys over what 8-9 networks. They better be able to have 40+ cards over 8 networks. After 2016 one by one their time buy deals dried up. ESPN gone, Spike gone, NBC and NBC Sports gone. CBS went from I think like 8 shows that first year to one each in 2016 and 2017 and none this year.

We we see really soon. I hope all are successful so I can discuss boxing with my co-workers.

[Eff Pandas]

He was given 1 billion dollars to come up with a blue print to front run the boxing on DAZN

No he was not. He was given $1B to promote fights on DAZN for the next 8 years. If Hearn is working in any other capacity with DAZN he could very well be breaking some rule in the MAA & Hearn is nothing if not a smart operator so breaking a rule in the MAA wouldn't be something he'd do I don't believe.

Y'all mfers on some fantasy sh^t with Hearn & DAZN. Clearly DAZN likes & respects Eddie. Hell you can't dog the man about his pure promotion of boxing at all. He's the best promoter in the game in my book, but he's not gonna have THAT much control at DAZN with its decisions while him still having some input that might be beneficial to DAZN exec's.

Hearn himself last year said the UFC blueprint was the way to go and hes doing that. his recent comment with GGG having to sign to DAZN is proof,dont know what more proof you can actually want?

Go read the MAA & you'll see quickly why a UFC blueprint isn't even doable in boxing from a promoter angle. Only DAZN could have enough power to do that & thats just in theory & to do that they'd need to make a deal with Haymon not just his fighters as I see it. Then maybe ESPN Boxing goes down the toilet. But with Fox/Showtime & Haymon locked into a deal thats just not gonna happen for another decade or two BEST CASE & I'll always bet against the best case happening in boxing.

But respect to what DAZN has done thus far. I for sure didn't think they'd get Canelo cuz I didn't think they were willing to spend as much money as they did on him.

Edit : GGG to sign with DAZN to get another Canelo fight.

I do think thats a solid bet now since Murata lost. If Murata woulda won I think we'd have seen GGG vs Murata as a one off on ESPN+ & perhaps a GGG/ESPN/Arum deal.

[Eff Pandas]

Those 40+ dates were time buys over what 8-9 networks. They better be able to have 40+ cards over 8 networks. After 2016 one by one their time buy deals dried up. ESPN gone, Spike gone, NBC and NBC Sports gone. CBS went from I think like 8 shows that first year to one each in 2016 and 2017 and none this year.

What difference do time buys vs non-time buys make in keeping guys active + making more quality fights? I'd say none. You should still be trying to keep guys active & you still should be trying to make the best fights to make as much as you can from the advertising time you are selling via your time buys vs what you paid for that time.

We we see really soon. I hope all are successful so I can discuss boxing with my co-workers.

Yep. Good luck with that lol. I think we are still a long way off from casual fans being knowledge about boxing like they used to be back in the day like the 40's or hell even the 70's & 80's.

I'll still randomly run into cats who'll claim to be a boxing fan that'll talk about 80's fights like they happened last week or those guys are still fighting lmfao. Its actually a true joke when I say that most of the cats I run into who I'll find out like boxing will mention SRL, Hagler, Tyson, Holyfield or Mosley as their favorite ACTIVE fighter lol. I guess active means not dead to these mfers or something maybe. I'll just go with it & then my follow up question is usually what prospect or up & coming guy do you like & I'll get a confused look or they'll finally cop to the fact they "don't watch boxing too much these days".

[MasterPlan]

What difference do time buys vs non-time buys make in keeping guys active + making more quality fights? I'd say none. You should still be trying to keep guys active & you still should be trying to make the best fights to make as much as you can from the advertising time you are selling via your time buys vs what you paid for that time.



Yep. Good luck with that lol. I think we are still a long way off from casual fans being knowledge about boxing like they used to be back in the day like the 40's or hell even the 70's & 80's.

I'll still randomly run into cats who'll claim to be a boxing fan that'll talk about 80's fights like they happened last week or those guys are still fighting lmfao. Its actually a true joke when I say that most of the cats I run into who I'll find out like boxing will mention SRL, Hagler, Tyson, Holyfield or Mosley as their favorite ACTIVE fighter lol. I guess active means not dead to these mfers or something maybe. I'll just go with it & then my follow up question is usually what prospect or up & coming guy do you like & I'll get a confused look or they'll finally cop to the fact they "don't watch boxing too much these days".

Only co worker I can discuss boxing with is this female. She's like a real boxing fan and sports in general and she baaaddd too. Would have asked her to marry me but she's already taken. Smh.

[rickJen]

There is no real answer to what is best for boxing because not all fights have the same size, big, small...
Fighters and promoters want huge money for risky fights.
Where will the money come from?
Free tv is half the answer, the rest has to be paid by the viewers.

[REDEEMER]

No he was not. He was given $1B to promote fights on DAZN for the next 8 years. If Hearn is working in any other capacity with DAZN he could very well be breaking some rule in the MAA & Hearn is nothing if not a smart operator so breaking a rule in the MAA wouldn't be something he'd do I don't believe.

Y'all mfers on some fantasy sh^t with Hearn & DAZN. Clearly DAZN likes & respects Eddie. Hell you can't dog the man about his pure promotion of boxing at all. He's the best promoter in the game in my book, but he's not gonna have THAT much control at DAZN with its decisions while him still having some input that might be beneficial to DAZN exec's.



Go read the MAA & you'll see quickly why a UFC blueprint isn't even doable in boxing from a promoter angle. Only DAZN could have enough power to do that & thats just in theory & to do that they'd need to make a deal with Haymon not just his fighters as I see it. Then maybe ESPN Boxing goes down the toilet. But with Fox/Showtime & Haymon locked into a deal thats just not gonna happen for another decade or two BEST CASE & I'll always bet against the best case happening in boxing.

But respect to what DAZN has done thus far. I for sure didn't think they'd get Canelo cuz I didn't think they were willing to spend as much money as they did on him.



I do think thats a solid bet now since Murata lost. If Murata woulda won I think we'd have seen GGG vs Murata as a one off on ESPN+ & perhaps a GGG/ESPN/Arum deal.

Everything is on record, its actually was on the actual press conference that what you say is proven false. Hearn was given 1 billion to get the plat form off the ground. you are unaware the Matchroom are actual partners with Performance group who owns DAZN,so sorry but you are still wrong. Basically Hearn Is partners with DAZN that's why he is the spokeman. you can argue it but that's what it is.

Edit : If you don't think the UFc blueprint is doable in boxing it shows you are out of touch which you actually contradicted yourself because many problems you stated in boxing is what Hearn is fixing in DAZN Corp,which is a UFC model type. You simply lack understanding which is a common occurance on the forum ,its bizarre almost like you guys cant take in certain logistics on here?

Anyway Hearn was not given 1 billion out of charity ,he was given it to built a boxing platform for DAZN, go ahead and argue it,im done on the silly subject.!

[N/A]

I said at the beginning that PBC would have been great had it been in an app with a monthly fee of 5 to 10 dollars giving us all the fights they have shown on showtime, Fox, CBS, etc....they wasted all that money the first few years with time buys and the ratings weren't fantastic and showtime never has good ratings

Haymon's goal was to make boxing a mainstream sport again. Get back on network TV. Etc. Hiding behind an app would accomplish the exact opposite of what Haymon's trying to accomplish.

For existing boxing fans that were buying Canelo's PPVs, DAZN is a great change, but it's difficult to make new fans when you're out of sight and out of mind.

Boxing being on FOX every month, being promoted on FOX during NFL games, during WWE events, during MLB games, etc is a chance for boxing to become a mainstream sport again and eventually be worth hundreds of millions of dollars a year in TV rights like other sports.

As for Showtime's ratings, you're looking at their Nielsen ratings, which are terribly misleading. Showtime has millions of subscribers that don't subscribe through cable or satellite. They subscribe directly, through Amazon, etc and aren't counted by Nielsen. Unlike HBO, Showtime offers live fights on their app. There's no reason to watch through a linear TV channel and Showtime's app is way cheaper too.

[Eff Pandas]

Everything is on record, its actually was on the actual press conference that what you say is proven false. Hearn was given 1 billion to get the plat form off the ground. you are unaware the Matchroom are actual partners with Performance group who owns DAZN,so sorry but you are still wrong. Basically Hearn Is partners with DAZN that's why he is the spokeman. you can argue it but that's what it is.

Link me to something official looking that says Eddie Hearn is doing more than promoting for DAZN or Performance Group.

I don't got any doubt DAZN looks towards Eddie (& will look towards Oscar in the future) for advice. Thats kinda what you do in a company. You talk to those you hired & who deal with sh^t more deeply then you do.

And I don't got any doubt Eddie has some subscriber goals sorta deal that could be for money or could be for bumping up his budget cuz I refuse to believe Eddie has the money he claims ($125M/year) & is just being frugal & trying to make deals like he's at a yard sale with some of the guys.

That said he's not on the board of directors or w/e. He's not an investor in the company. He's not the VP of Boxing. He's merely a promoter.

And why would he even wanna be all that sh^t anyway. He's with Matchroom Sports in the UK which could lose their rights to darts or w/e to DAZN in the future lol.

Edit : If you don't think the UFc blueprint is doable in boxing it shows you are out of touch which you actually contradicted yourself because many problems you stated in boxing is what Hearn is fixing in DAZN Corp,which is a UFC model type. You simply lack understanding which is a common occurance on the forum ,its bizarre almost like you guys cant take in certain logistics on here?

You are out of touch if you don't realize its a basic conflict of interest as noted in the MAA that a promoter can't also by the person paying for content or working directly for the person paying for content. This is basic f#cking business sh^t & its unethical.

Anyway Hearn was not given 1 billion out of charity ,he was given it to built a boxing platform for DAZN, go ahead and argue it,im done on the silly subject.!

Who's saying Hearn didn't get $1B to promote Matchroom shows on DAZN (& I suspect has a deal for subscriber bonuses too). Its you Hearn fanboys that keep acting like Hearn owns DAZN or Hearn is doing sh^t in violation of the MAA. Hearn isn't as dumb as Hearn fanboys luckily.

[Eff Pandas]

Only co worker I can discuss boxing with is this female. She's like a real boxing fan and sports in general and she baaaddd too. Would have asked her to marry me but she's already taken. Smh.

Nice. I've not found any girls who dig boxing realllllly. You need to sabotage her relationship like some weirdo dude would do lol. It'd be worth the bad karma & violation of the man code for the upside there I think maybe.