WBC wants Wilder/Fury winner facing Joshua!

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I'm not saying Wilder won't be making more than 10 million, I'm just saying he's making more than 10 million and therefore the WBC sanctioning fee is the same whether he fights Joshua or Fury.

The WBC wants an undisputed champion because they know it'll increase the value of the heavyweight division and that their belt is the least likely to get ditched by the new undisputed champion when all the mandatories come rolling in.

How much is the wilder fight set to make in terms of money generated ? I am assuming the WBC wants wilder to win but does that come with a rematch ? I have to question some of WBC's motives and how they come up with the rankings as well. Watching boxing for a minute im not sure undisputed is really important because no fighter stays undisputed very long either by losing or giving up a title.

[bigjavi973]

Team Joshua have already sent s contract over. I don't get why people think they need to be forced to fight, they've sent a deal over and are looking to meet but Shirley winkle won't discuss the fight

because eddie hearn bullshits too much maybe so us boxing fans dont really trust his word like that

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How much is the wilder fight set to make in terms of money generated ? I am assuming the WBC wants wilder to win but does that come with a rematch ?

The WBC realizes a unification is unlikely any time soon. They don't care if Wilder or Fury win, they just want a good fight so a rematch will be marketable.

I have to question some of WBC's motives and how they come up with the rankings as well.

What are your questions? I'm happy to answer.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

He started promoting sports in early 1970's and still is today. He changed the face of many sports in the U.K and worldwide including darts, snooker and even 8 ball pool. Barry Hearn is one of the most successful sports promoters to come out of the U.K EVER! I think they know what they are doing!

He never done ***** in boxing,
Eddie has already done far better than his dad ever did.
His dad promoted some horrible matchups starting with his first ever fight Frank Bruno against the ghost of Joe Bugner.

He’s done very well with Snooker and Darts but they’re niche sports. I actually played darts semi professionally till I was 25, getting to the semi final of a UK open qualifier is my claim to fame😂😂

[Robbie Barrett]

Since when did a sanctioning body ever order a unification? Has this ever happened?

I see a lot of quotes, but no source

The WBC can only encourage the fight, they can hold back mandatories.... they CAN'T order a unification.

Where did you get those quotes from? FAKE NEWS unless you provide a credible source.

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/11521421/wbc-to-support-a-blockbuster-bout-between-deontay-wilder-tyson-fury-winner-and-anthony-joshua

There is no quote like that in this article, just that the WBC will support it.

Didn't the WBC order Canelo to unify with Golovkin?

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The WBC realizes a unification is unlikely any time soon. They don't care if Wilder or Fury win, they just want a good fight so a rematch will be marketable.




What are your questions? I'm happy to answer.

Why did they demote Breazeale who was waiting on wilder ?

How did Ortiz become number 2 after a loss ?

Fury is also questionable having not been ranked at all in a WBC rankings and now at 3?

How is it possible they can force wilder to fight another champion ,its up to the fighter to agree to a fight if its not mandated in the actual organization is it not?

These are highly su****ious moves. I cant buy into they don't care about wilder not being champion ,ive followed his career since 2016 it tells me they do.

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Why did they demote Breazeale who was waiting on wilder ?

Just because you have a guaranteed title shot doesn't mean you can't be dropped down the rankings if you're inactive.

How did Ortiz become number 2 after a loss ?

He went life and death with the world champion, proving himself as a top contender. After the loss, he fell to #4. Since the loss, he brutally knocked out a recent world title challenger and Povetkin, who was in front of him, lost a fight.

Fury is also questionable having not been ranked at all in a WBC rankings and now at 3?

He'd never pursued a WBC rating before. Once he asked to be rated and fought a couple fights, he was obviously going to be highly rated as an undefeated lineal champion / former wba/ibf/wbo unified world champion. He's #5 in the boxrec ratings right now, which means after champions AJ & Wilder, he's the #3 contender in the world according to boxrec, which is exactly where the WBC has him.

How is it possible they can force wilder to fight another champion ,its up to the fighter to agree to a fight if its not mandated in the actual organization is it not?

They can't force Wilder to fight Joshua unless Joshua wins the WBC diamond title. Then they can force him. But the WBC hasn't said they'll order the fight. They've only said they would support the fight happening. Joshua would never want to be diamond champion anyway because if it was a wbc/world vs wbc/diamond mandatory fight, it'd likely be a 50/50 split and Haymon would likely win the purse bid. So it's not like Joshua would want the fight to be mandated anyway.

These are highly su****ious moves. I cant buy into they don't care about wilder not being champion ,ive followed his career since 2016 it tells me they do.

Only su****ious if you don't understand how sanctioning body ratings typically work. Wilder has been a great champion for the WBC and they support him, but if Fury wins a thrilling fight and there's a huge rematch at Wembley stadium, the WBC will be very happy with that. All the WBC cares about is there being big fights so there will be big sanctioning fees.

[Phenom]

This doesn't mean anything they can't call a purse bid just stating the obvious unification trumps mandatory

[Vinnykin]

Didn't the WBC order Canelo to unify with Golovkin?

Golovkin was the interim champion, he unified that title in 2014 against Rubio..... when Canelo refused to fight GGG he became full champion.

Joshua holds no belts with the WBC, not even ranked. The WBC can't order anything. This guy used quotes that I haven't seen anywhere. The WBC will support it, nothing more.

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Just because you have a guaranteed title shot doesn't mean you can't be dropped down the rankings if you're inactive.




He went life and death with the world champion, proving himself as a top contender. After the loss, he fell to #4. Since the loss, he brutally knocked out a recent world title challenger and Povetkin, who was in front of him, lost a fight.




He'd never pursued a WBC rating before. Once he asked to be rated and fought a couple fights, he was obviously going to be highly rated as an undefeated lineal champion / former wba/ibf/wbo unified world champion. He's #5 in the boxrec ratings right now, which means after champions AJ & Wilder, he's the #3 contender in the world according to boxrec, which is exactly where the WBC has him.




They can't force Wilder to fight Joshua unless Joshua wins the WBC diamond title. Then they can force him. But the WBC hasn't said they'll order the fight. They've only said they would support the fight happening. Joshua would never want to be diamond champion anyway because if it was a wbc/world vs wbc/diamond mandatory fight, it'd likely be a 50/50 split and Haymon would likely win the purse bid. So it's not like Joshua would want the fight to be mandated anyway.




Only su****ious if you don't understand how sanctioning body ratings typically work. Wilder has been a great champion for the WBC and they support him, but if Fury wins a thrilling fight and there's a huge rematch at Wembley stadium, the WBC will be very happy with that. All the WBC cares about is there being big fights so there will be big sanctioning fees.

Theres considerable questionable responses here. Stiverne was promoted number 1 or 2 after being inactive for two years and himself like Breazeale was a mandatory. I don't recall close fights having a relevancy in promotion to a higher ranking,weve had several fights recently like Parker and that polish guy who I forgot ? What is the diamond title ? That would seem very irrelevant here if were discussing champions vs champions.

We could assume Fury would be a very high ranked WBC fighter but the fact he wasn't and skipped over guys going by the criteria you placed even here. I don't know seems to me the WBC are not playing by the actual rule book even if your post was well described it still doesn't add up. I guess we'll just see how it plays out.