Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz Accepts Dillian Whyte's Offer To Fight on 12/22 in UK

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  • Sparked_26
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    Originally posted by Bronx2245
    I can understand being proud of Hearn, and admiring what he's building, but can't they see the difference between Ortiz, Whyte, and Chisora? Do they actually miss the difference in skill level?
    They had a great fight already and they’re both Brits.

    Until we have a foreign fighter headline a card here - your way of thinking won’t happen.

    Nearly always a domestic dust up takes precedent over pretty much everything bar maybe an American champ with a bit of hype behind them.

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  • kafkod
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    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
    Hearn admitted he let Ortiz go after the Price fight so your memory isn't too good. Hearn has also said there's no point in Whyte fighting Ortiz because he'd still have to wait 2 years to fight Wilder but your memory failed you and you forgot that. And you just gonna ignore Big Baby telling Hearn to his face that he didn't want Whyte to fight Ortiz and Hearn couldn't say nothing but sit there with that **** eating grin on his face.


    Here's big baby exposing more lies Hearn has told

    Ok, no point talking to you about this if you are not going to be real about it.

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  • Bronx2245
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    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
    Trust me they’ll all buy into whatever BS narrative Hearn creates, and that’s coming from a Brit.
    Boxing is a joke in this country
    I can understand being proud of Hearn, and admiring what he's building, but can't they see the difference between Ortiz, Whyte, and Chisora? Do they actually miss the difference in skill level?

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  • Sparked_26
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    Originally posted by DougalDylan
    Same way he got out of the AJ and Parker fights .. he didn't.

    Your too used to Wilder and all his excuses .. I'm a baby heavyweight champion, I've a hurt shoulder, he once did drugs, no one will fight me apart from the top 10, he fought AJ once ... etc etc .. always something .. always ducking.
    Agreed it’s bit frustrating that people question Whyte’s willingness.

    He so obviously game

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  • KnickTillDeaTh
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    Originally posted by DougalDylan
    How could Pulev fight Ortiz next ? He has Hughie next and if he loses that will probably want a gimmee , if he wins AJ.

    Hearn was talking to Ortiz pre Whyte round another fight so Povetkin is a possibility.
    Supposedly Fury vs Pulev is not sanctioned, so it is feasible that the contract for that fight can be broken if one of the fighters are offered a larger sanctioned fight. Me personally of the two, I'd rather see Ortiz fight Hughie, (if the Whyte fight isn't made) it'll be a great story line for the event. Having brothers on the same card.

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  • Bronx2245
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    Originally posted by Sparked_26
    Not sure about that.

    It’s only you lot that are obsessed with Ortiz.

    Chisora was a FOTY here
    What a shame!

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  • DougalDylan
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    Same way he got out of the AJ and Parker fights .. he didn't.

    Your too used to Wilder and all his excuses .. I'm a baby heavyweight champion, I've a hurt shoulder, he once did drugs, no one will fight me apart from the top 10, he fought AJ once ... etc etc .. always something .. always ducking.

    Originally posted by _Rexy_
    lets see how Whyte gets out of this one

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  • KnickTillDeaTh
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    Originally posted by Hot Shyt
    EXACTLY!! Its the fighter that has the last word.. So all these fighters talking about "it's up to my promoter/manager" are on bull****
    That's actually factually incorrect. Once a fighter signs with a promoter, the promoter can go after any fight that he wants, by that same token, the promoter does not have to make a fight because the boxer wants it. Promoters don't work for the fighter, it's the other way around. Promoters are in it to maximize their own revenue, and they'll always push the fighter on the route that line their pockets, which is one of the reasons the Ali act was so important for the protection of boxers. A boxer can request the promoter go after a fight, but in the end, the promoter can say he doesn't want to make that fight, or the fight is not financially viable. The fighter either takes the fights that are offered, or sits on the shelf until the contract runs out, similar to Ward and Mikey.

    Now managers are a whole different thing, Managers are under contract to the Boxer, so the manager is employed by the boxer. So a boxer can say go get me this fight, and the manager can advise against, but in the end, if the boxer says get it, the manager will try to secure the best deal, and then the boxer has to decline or except. Some managers have huge sway like Al Haymon, and most of his boxers will heed his advise, the boxers who don't usually don't come out good on the other end, just look at Khan, and how Jacobs viewership declined after signing with Hearn, and now he will be losing his deal with HBO.

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  • AdonisCreed
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    As a manager my job is to give the best advice and be there for my team but he’s a grown man and the truth is the fighter is the boss so at the end they always have the last word. So I guess we will be in UK soon,” best advice and be there for my team but he’s a grown man and the truth is the fighter is the boss so at the end they always have the last word. So I guess we will be in UK soon,”

    This says allot, so the fighter is the boss and makes the final decision. Good to use for future references

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  • AdonisCreed
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    “Done deal. Enough talking that rubbish you speak. Send over the contract and I’m there. Now you’ve got yourself a real problem son. So now what are you gonna do?”

    If Whyte makes a bulls*** excuse not to fight Ortiz he should be laughed out of boxing!! This guy just abandoned his plans to accommodate you and accepted a fight in your own backyard!!! Lol haha It's Go Time!!

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