Why are American boxers so inactive?

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  • THEFRESHBRAWLER
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    #11
    Originally posted by Abovetheclouds
    Great input.
    Lmao you’re new here I don’t even know why I posted on this dumb thread. Get your rep up before you start posting dumb threads

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    • _Rexy_
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      #12
      Originally posted by redmish
      The names you mentioned are all so talented and good to watch too. It can only be a TV/Promotional issue. None of them have injuries to my knowledge and they will realise too late how short a career in boxing is.
      Hurd has been injured. Pretty sure he’s just coming back from injury actually.

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      • Abovetheclouds
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        #13
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        Show me who's got all these world class guys & are putting them in the ring 3 times a year please. I'd like to follow that promoter/network/entity.

        The reality is this isn't happening. Hearn is the cat who's claiming this the most, but if you look at his name guys its not actually happening. Big fan of Hearn. I think he's the best promoter in the game right now, but just cuz he's telling you something don't mean you should believe it.

        Anthony Joshua, 2018 - 2 fights, 2017 - 2 fights

        Callum Smith, 2018 - 2 fights, 2017 - 1 fight

        Tony Bellew, 2018 - 2 fights, 2017 - 1 fight, 2016 - 2 fights

        Khalid Yafai, 2018 - 1 fight, 2017 - 2 fights

        Ryan Burnett, 2018 - 2 fights

        Luke Campbell, 2018 - 2 fights

        Kell Brook, 2018 - 1 fight, 2017 - 1 fight, 2016 - 2 fights, 2015 - 2 fights, 2014 - 2 fights, 2013 - 2 fights

        Dillian Whyte, 2018 - 3 fights - Respect to Whyte, 2017 - 2 fights

        Rocky Fielding, 2018 - 3 fights Respect to Rocky although I think this is about Fielding getting a big fight pulled from Canelo's ass more than Hearn is keeping him more active, 2017 - 2 fights, 2016 - 2 fights

        Scott Quigg, 2018 - 2 fights, 2017 - 2 fights, 2016 - 2 fights, 2015 - 1 fight

        Martin Murray, 2018 - 1 fight, 2017 - 2 fights

        Anthony Crolla, 2018 - 2 fights, 2017 - 2 fights, 2016 - 2 fights, 2015 - 2 fights
        I never mentioned Hearn? I don't need him to tell me the likes of the Charlos and Davis are wasting their careers.

        Martin Murray is not with Matchroom btw.

        You provide fair examples of UK fighters. Crolla was more active when he had a world title. Brook has had both eye sockets damaged.

        Jermell Charlo/Jermall Charlo - Once in 2018 (four fights in 3 years)

        Jarrett Hurt - Once in 2018 (Injuries have held him back)

        Gervonta Davis - Once in 2018 (3 last year - what happened?)

        Errol Spence - Twice (Once last year)

        The majority of these are all World title holders.

        Maybe I stretched it a bit saying three, but only Errol has had two fights this year.

        I want to see them more active and I wanted to know the reasons behind it.

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        • Boksfan
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          #14
          Because Haymon is a snake.

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          • _Rexy_
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            #15
            Originally posted by Abovetheclouds
            I never mentioned Hearn? I don't need him to tell me the likes of the Charlos and Davis are wasting their careers.

            Martin Murray is not with Matchroom btw.

            You provide fair examples of UK fighters. Crolla was more active when he had a world title. Brook has had both eye sockets damaged.

            Jermell Charlo/Jermall Charlo - Once in 2018 (four fights in 3 years)

            Jarrett Hurt - Once in 2018 (Injuries have held him back)

            Gervonta Davis - Once in 2018 (3 last year - what happened?)

            Errol Spence - Twice (Once last year)

            The majority of these are all World title holders.

            Maybe I stretched it a bit saying three, but only Errol has had two fights this year.

            I want to see them more active and I wanted to know the reasons behind it.
            The post after yours said we needed more Eddie Hearns and less Al Haymons, so that’s why Panda and myself (me at least, can’t speak for him) used Hearn’s stable as an example.

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            • brettWall
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              #16
              No need to struggle understanding this unfortunate phenomena, which has become a salient feature of the sport. It is what it is and no one seems to be doing anything about it. Might as well accept it.

              I don't even see these fighters complaining about it, except those who most need it like the 2nd or 3rd tier fighters.

              All you can do as a fan is root for their opponents when they do fight. If you're in the audience, make loud noises when they get punched in the face, boo them when they're introduced, etc.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Boksfan
                Because Haymon is a snake.
                Yeah, boxing needs more promoters that rob and **** over their fighters. Haymon is a snake for getting his fighters rich! I don’t understand why all of these fighters are so loyal to Haymon!


                F’king idiot.

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                • THEFRESHBRAWLER
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Boksfan
                  Because Haymon is a snake.
                  He’ll always be greater than Hearn. Hearn will never accomplish half of what he has. Bow Down Eddie

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                  • Eff Pandas
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Abovetheclouds
                    I never mentioned Hearn?
                    I know you didn't. I did cuz he's the guy advertising himself as the "get you 3 fights a year" promoter. And I know he's not that.

                    I did ask you to tell me who's the promoter/network/entity or w/e who's showing all these world class guys 3 times a year & I noticed you didn't come up with nothing which is very telling.

                    So feel free to tell me which player in the sport is doing this cuz I'd auto-become a fan of whoever is doing it.

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                    • redmish
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by _Rexy_
                      Hurd has been injured. Pretty sure he’s just coming back from injury actually.
                      Gary Russell is the biggest shame for me. He is a brilliant fighter and has only had one fight a year for 4/5 years. Such a waste.

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