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  • 1hourRun
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    #11
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    Don't see how they can. VADA said:

    "The results of the analysis are as follows: Adverse. Urine specimen number 4248408: oxilofrine detected. Note the following is also contained on the laboratory report: 'Opinions: oxilofrine may have resulted from the administration of ephedrine which was also detected but below the decision limit of 11ug/ml. The estimated concentration of ephedrine is 4.6 ug/ml.'"

    The positive test could have come from a below the limit dose of ephedrine. Can't be banning people for that.
    The drug policy is very clear, why consume Ephedrine if Oxilofrine is carried over? The ban substance was in his system, END OF STORY.

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #12
      Originally posted by 1hourRun
      The drug policy is very clear, why consume Ephedrine if Oxilofrine is carried over? The ban substance was in his system, END OF STORY.
      See that's another problem. Who's drug policy do the commission follow? Their own? Wada, UKAD, USADA etc all allow the drug out of competition, Massachusetts will likely be the same. Do they go against their own rules to enforce VADA's, when it could have been from a legal dose of Ephedrine?

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        #13
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
        See that's another problem. Who's drug policy do the commission follow? Their own? Wada, UKAD, USADA etc all allow the drug out of competition, Massachusetts will likely be the same. Do they go against their own rules to enforce VADA's, when it could have been from a legal dose of Ephedrine?
        You might be right, however whats the point of VADA if the WBO sanctions this fight? Might as well 'let the commissions do their jobs' haha!

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        • jas
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          #14
          of course the fight happens

          this fake meeting on october 9th is just for show

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            #15
            Originally posted by 1hourRun
            Very little hope for Billy-Hoe. Another American getting screwed by a dirty, cheating Brit, disgusting. Will UKAD ban Billy for this? Billy Joe Saunders is a piece of trash, like his inbred cousins Tyson and Hughie.
            Use ****** yanks created the drug why do you think there has never been a good American heavyweight fighter since they upped the anti drug regime 15 years ago roy jones holyfeild Rahman moorer Morrison Tyson bowe all riddled with the sh it Americans all your hopes rely on wilder and his 40 fights of bums now picks a washed up cabbage in fury as his biggest ever fight

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              #16
              Originally posted by 1hourRun
              Very little hope for Billy-Hoe. Another American getting screwed by a dirty, cheating Brit, disgusting. Will UKAD ban Billy for this? Billy Joe Saunders is a piece of trash, like his inbred cousins Tyson and Hughie.
              Why would UKAD ban him when by their regulations he was perfectly fine to take it at the time?

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                #17
                Originally posted by Sickmerch1990
                Use ****** yanks created the drug why do you think there has never been a good American heavyweight fighter since they upped the anti drug regime 15 years ago roy jones holyfeild Rahman moorer Morrison Tyson bowe all riddled with the sh it Americans all your hopes rely on wilder and his 40 fights of bums now picks a washed up cabbage in fury as his biggest ever fight
                Didn't read.
                Originally posted by yammy25
                Why would UKAD ban him when by their regulations he was perfectly fine to take it at the time?
                No surprise, UKAD is behind on everything as usual.

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                • champion4ever
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                  #18
                  It's all about the integrity of the sport. We are talking about having an even playing field here. The Athletic state commissions can not allow one fighter to have an unfair advantage through the use of juicing and doping up without having any serious ramifications or repercussions behind it.

                  They have to make an example out of Billy Joe Saunders otherwise these anti-doping protocol agencies would be considered a complete sham or a hoax. It sets a very bad standard if they are going to allow doping in sports. If they do then make it all legal then.

                  Billy Joe Saunders knew the rules. He even accepted those rules. Therefore, he must abide by those rules. It's just as simple as that.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by champion4ever
                    It's all about the integrity of the sport. We are talking about having an even playing field here. The Athletic state commissions can not allow one fighter to have an unfair advantage through the use of juicing and doping up without having any serious ramifications or repercussions behind it.

                    They have to make an example out of Billy Joe Saunders otherwise these anti-doping protocol agencies would be considered a complete sham or a hoax. It sets a very bad standard if they are going to allow doping in sports. If they do then make it all legal then.

                    Billy Joe Saunders knew the rules. He even accepted those rules. Therefore, he must abide by those rules. It's just as simple as that.
                    Ephedrine isn't juicing. Not even close. Was used in almost every fat burner product until people started od'ing on it and ****ing up their heart.

                    Only VADA says it's banned out of competition. He didn't break any commission rules. Even was under VADA's allowed limit.

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                      #20
                      Other fighters in the past, who had popped for PED use have either been suspended, fined or have had their title belts stripped from them altogether; By both the governing and sanctioning bodies. Therefore, Billy Joe Saunders is not above approach or above the rules. Therefore he must abide them same protocol as well.

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