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    #51
    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
    None of the titles are the best. But if you want the worst, look no further than the most corrupt out of all of them... The WBC.

    Wilder isn't even with Joshua in any way, behave yourself. 3 titles are much better than 1. The brand of title doesn't make you any better or lesser than another champ. It's who you beat that gives you legitimacy. And Joshua has that in spades, Wilder doesn't even come close.
    AJ beat a old Klitschko that Tyson fury already beat. Get out of here with that bs. And everybody knows in boxing it's the WBC than WBA/IBF in that order period. Like I said those ABC belts are meaningless now a days.

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      #52
      Originally posted by JcLazyX210
      Belts are meaningless unless it's the lineal title, undisputed title or ring title. Fury has the lineal , nobody is undisputed and AJ has the ring and as far as belts the WBC is the best and Deontay has that. It's pretty even.
      WBC is the worst and most corrupt!! Haymon has the Wbc bent over.....allows Stevenson to avoid mandatories for years and creates ridiculous " Diamond" belts.

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        #53
        Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER
        WBC is the worst and most corrupt!! Haymon has the Wbc bent over.....allows Stevenson to avoid mandatories for years and creates ridiculous " Diamond" belts.
        WBA . All of them are belts for hired besides the IBF.

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          #54
          Originally posted by JcLazyX210
          Belts are meaningless unless it's the lineal title, undisputed title or ring title. Fury has the lineal , nobody is undisputed and AJ has the ring and as far as belts the WBC is the best and Deontay has that. It's pretty even.
          Okay so no belts, resumes speak for themselves. Wilder has 1 good name on his and he was lucky the man was old cuz the 7th round could have been it for him. AJ has 2 World champs one a hall of famer the other the undefeated at the time Parker. A gold medalist in Povetkin. Fury is the lineal and I am more than fine calling him #1 cuz he is also more accomplished than Wilder. Wilder still 3rd place until he fights Fury.

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            #55
            Originally posted by davefromvancouv
            Joshua was supposed to fight Povetkin in 2016 for the WBC mandatory (similar to the situation with Whyte THIS year, mandated to fight easy Ortiz but fighting Parker instead, go figure). Joshua jumped out of the WBC ratings and fought Martin, Klitschko and Parker to pick up Fury's belts.

            So yes, he was kept away from Povetkin until Povetkin faded. In fact, every chance Joshua had to fight Wilder, he took another route. Now WHY do you think that is? Because Joshua's number 1, or because he knows he's not and Wilder would flatten him (at this point)?

            YOU say Ortiz is faded, but no fighters want to fight old, frail Ortiz. Why do you think THAT is?

            Fury is in the best place he's ever been mentally and after nine straight months of training, he's already at his optimal fighting weight, ready to challenge himself against the longest reigning champion in the heavyweight division. Fury is anything BUT faded.

            But it's funny that you would say Fury and Ortiz are faded. They're the only fighters who have the GUTS to fight Wilder. And they didn't even need $50 million to step up to the challenge. Win or lose, these are real fighters and will be respected...
            Actually, Joshua wasn't going for a world title back then because he wanted to take his time. But upon hearing this, Martin thought he could pump his chest out and act all tough on social media by calling him out and saying he would destroy him. Joshua got so sick of it he got Hearn to make the fight and deal with it himself. The rest is history.

            Only a fool would think Joshua was ducking Povetkin by fighting his conqueror in Wlad. So well done again for proving to be ******. It's a nasty habit for you isn't it?

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              #56
              Originally posted by 5000boxing
              Im a simpleton? Ok.. u started the name callin this time.. fine with me.. im not into the gentlemen bs anyways, I'd rather just keep shyt real.. and say exactly how I feel.. So lets get to it!.. first of all, wipe AJ'S dried nutjuice from around yo lips before you address a alpha.. secondly, Wilder is a nobody??? Name four hw fighters that's somebody??? Lmao.. Ok.. then answer this, why is yo butt buddy turning down 3x his highest purse not to fight in America? Because Wilder is a nobody? Lmao your middle-earth logic makes zero sense.. AJ will never leave the shire. Lol
              Yes, you're a simpleton.

              After you wipe Wilder's juice from your lips. Ladies first.

              Only a c4nt would call themselves an alpha.

              There doesn't need to be 4 Heavyweights who are somebody to prove Wilder is a nobody. He's a nobody because he fights for peanuts, can't sell tickets, fights bums and shot fighters, and no one in the US knows him. These are facts that you need to deal with.

              Joshua was offered that money on the back of his star power, nothing to do with Wilder. They wanted to sell the event on the back of him against an American fighter in the hope that home court and corruption could steal it away. But AJ isn't ******. If Wilder wants the fight he has to come to the champs home and take those titles. His biggest payday is waiting when ever he finds the courage.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                Actually, Joshua wasn't going for a world title back then because he wanted to take his time. But upon hearing this, Martin thought he could pump his chest out and act all tough on social media by calling him out and saying he would destroy him. Joshua got so sick of it he got Hearn to make the fight and deal with it himself. The rest is history.

                Only a fool would think Joshua was ducking Povetkin by fighting his conqueror in Wlad. So well done again for proving to be ******. It's a nasty habit for you isn't it?
                Wow, that's rich! Joshua became the WBC International heavyweight champion in 2014 and defends that title seven times. But just when he is mandated to fight Povetkin in 2016 for the shot at Wilder (right AFTER Wilder scores that scary knockout against Artur Szpilka), he decides that NOW is the time to deal with that pesky Charles Martin! Hahahhahhahahah!!!

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by JcLazyX210
                  AJ beat a old Klitschko that Tyson fury already beat. Get out of here with that bs. And everybody knows in boxing it's the WBC than WBA/IBF in that order period. Like I said those ABC belts are meaningless now a days.
                  If they are meaningless, then how can you consider Wilder to be pretty much equal with Joshua? It can't be drawing power. It can't be by how much money they make. It can't be resume. So yeah, he isn't close to being equal.

                  Who cares if Fury beat Wlad before Joshua did? It was still a very good win. Better than Wilder's whole career combined.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by davefromvancouv
                    Wow, that's rich! Joshua became the WBC International heavyweight champion in 2014 and defends that title seven times. But just when he is mandated to fight Povetkin in 2016 for the shot at Wilder (right AFTER Wilder scores that scary knockout against Artur Szpilka), he decides that NOW is the time to deal with that pesky Charles Martin! Hahahhahhahahah!!!
                    I've already told you Joshua wasn't yet ready but changed the course of his career after all the talking from Martin.

                    Yeah, Joshua couldn't possibly fight Wilder after struggling with that bum Spilka and knocking him out. No, he instead went for that no hoper Wladimir Klitschko. Haha.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Kezzer
                      AJ, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker.

                      As it stands I don't think anyone can argue baby Miller is in front of any of them!

                      I can understand people arguing Wilder, fury and Ortiz to an extent! Baby Miller maybe top10 and may even prove himself to be top5 - but at the moment? Well he turned down a fight against Whyte to challenge Charr?
                      Baby Miller is an outstanding contender. He is the truth and wraps is a fan. His only real challenge is that he fights in the era of Tyson " 2 fast" fury, who might go down as the greatest HW to ever lace em up. Boxing's Achilles.

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