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  • D4thincarnation
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    #171
    Originally posted by travestyny
    I'm not claiming anything. YOU are claiming that he couldn't have had that with no information fool.

    If he had symptoms of rhabdomyolysis, the right thing to do would be to treat him for it, which would be done with an IV. The most important concern is the health of the athlete. Stiverne should have been treated with an IV BEFORE entering the ring. This is obvious. If the DCO after talking to USADA decided that there was no harm in treating him for possible rhabdomyolysis being that he was there to watch everything, took a sample before the IV, took a sample after the IV, tested the sample for dilution, the lab tested the sample for dilution, TUE applied for, independent group of doctors approves of the anonymous application....


    Sorry, your "proof" has failed. Try again when you can make some sense of your conspiracy theory. Thanks.



    Although the condition is very serious, you can have a full recovery after being diagnosed with and treated for rhabdo. Once you have the green light to start physical activity from your medical health professional (usually after one to three weeks), here are some tips to get back into a regular workout routine:


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    • travestyny
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      #172
      Originally posted by D4thincarnation
      https://www.guardyourhealth.com/ask-...ysis-recovery/

      Although the condition is very serious, you can have a full recovery after being diagnosed with and treated for rhabdo. Once you have the green light to start physical activity from your medical health professional (usually after one to three weeks), here are some tips to get back into a regular workout routine:


      Try again
      What part did you miss about Stiverne going 12 with Deontay Wilder while having it.


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      • D4thincarnation
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        #173
        Originally posted by travestyny
        What part did you miss about Stiverne going 12 with Deontay Wilder while having it.


        Try again


        Low Risk For Recurrent Rhabdomyolysis

        Before the advent of modern day exercise (Crossfit, circuit training, P90x, etc.) the majority of rhabdomyolysis cases were primarily in physical training within the military. Obviously, military style physical training in hot/humid environments for hours on end can put a person at risk for rhabdo. Because of that the military developed their own algorithm for a return to physical activity after rhabdomyolysis:

        Phase One:
        1. Rest For 72 Hours and Encourage Oral Hydration
        2. Sleep 8 hours consecutively each night
        3. Avoid excessive heat or excessive cold environments
        4. Follow up within 72 hours for a repeat blood and urine test – when the CK value is less than five times the upper limit of the lab normal range and the urine has returned to normal, begin phase two. If the labs aren’t normal, follow phase one repeat labs every 72 hours until normal. If the CK remains at least five times higher than the normal and/or the urine test is abnormal for two weeks, see a specialist.

        Phase Two:

        1. Begin light activity (no strenuous physical activity).
        2. Gradually increase the light activity at your own pace for one week; at that time follow up with a primary care physician within one week to assess for a further increase in activity. If There is no return of symptoms, begin phase three. If symptoms return, stay in phase two and follow up with a primary care physician in one week intervals.

        Phase Three:

        Gradually return to your regular physical activity. Follow up with a primary care physician as needed, espeicially if rhabdomyolysis symptoms return.

        Stiverne was diagnosed after the fight, and he had a terrible performance.

        An IV does not fix this instantly

        It is a long recovery process.

        He would have had to report it to NSAC, and fighting could have put his life in danger.

        Try again.

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        • travestyny
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          #174
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation
          http://yourlivingbody.com/2014/08/25...habdomyolysis/




          Stiverne was diagnosed after the fight, and he had a terrible performance.

          An IV does not fix this instantly

          It is a long recovery process.

          He would have had to report it to NSAC, and fighting could have put his life in danger.

          Try again.


          You're still trying


          All USADA had to do was allow him to be treated with IV fluid ahead of time, which they did. I bet Stiverne would have loved to have been treated with an IV before the fight if you had asked him.

          Or would you rather have had USADA just let him go in without any treatment...and having him sit in the hospital afterward with the doctors telling him that he could have died, just like they told Stiverne.

          Great job by USADA caring for the athlete while making sure there was no PED abuse going on.


          Give up It's over son.
          Last edited by travestyny; 10-03-2018, 09:17 PM.

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            #175
            Originally posted by D4thincarnation
            V infusions during home visits, urgent care or after-hours clinics, boutique IV and rehydration services, and doctor’s office visits are not hospital admissions and would require an approved TUE in advance.

            What part of that don't you understand?
            The part that you don't understand is that if you don't have a TUE in advance because something unexpected happened, you apply for a RETROACTIVE TUE, which means the TUE is treated, RETROACTIVELY, as if you had it in advance.

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              #176
              Originally posted by ADP02
              Floyd/Ellerbe said it was "just rehydration"
              Lochte said it was "just rehydration"
              Lochte posted a photo of himself getting an IV for normal re-hydration, not due to any sort of illness. Anything could have been in that IV.

              Mayweather fell ill, as witnessed by USADA, a paramedic was called, as witnessed by USADA, and was given salt water and vitamin C, as witnessed by USADA.

              The infusion was declared in advance and a urine sample given immediately before and immediately after. Completely different situation from Lochte.

              Mayweather has no obligation to be honest publicly about his illness. For all we know, he could have had explosive diarrhea and he'd be under no obligation to declare that publicly. His medical information is private. USADA's doctors had access to his medical information, without knowing who the file belonged to, and approved his TUE.

              There was no controversy. Everything was done within the rules. You just got brainwashed by HBO's on the payroll journalistic assassin.

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              • spytactics
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                #177
                Not interested in a rematch unless it’s a 15 round fight within a small ring.

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                • GrandmasterWang
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                  #178
                  May and Pac both coming off TKO wins in 2018.

                  Too funny.

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                  • D4thincarnation
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    The part that you don't understand is that if you don't have a TUE in advance because something unexpected happened, you apply for a RETROACTIVE TUE, which means the TUE is treated, RETROACTIVELY, as if you had it in advance.
                    It clearly says you do. Unless you go to the hospital, require surgery or have clinical investigations. Floyd had none of these.

                    retroactive is literally the opposite of advanced.


                    Floyd is guilty of doping and USADA covered it up.

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                    • D4thincarnation
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                      #180
                      Originally posted by travestyny
                      You're still trying


                      All USADA had to do was allow him to be treated with IV fluid ahead of time, which they did. I bet Stiverne would have loved to have been treated with an IV before the fight if you had asked him.

                      Or would you rather have had USADA just let him go in without any treatment...and having him sit in the hospital afterward with the doctors telling him that he could have died, just like they told Stiverne.

                      Great job by USADA caring for the athlete while making sure there was no PED abuse going on.


                      Give up It's over son.

                      Wrong.

                      1) Rhabdomyolysis would affect an top athlete if they had lost a lot of body weight with overtraining, Muscle would be lost and breakdown so much so it clogs the kidneys and you get the condition.

                      If Floyd walks around at his fight weight and famously says he does and doesn't try to make weight it would be damn near impossible for him to develop the condition.

                      And you fail to understand that the condition is serious and could result in death and take 2-3 weeks to even get back to doing any physical activity let alone to make a full recovery.

                      Deal with the FACTS

                      Try again.

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