Comments Thread For: Espinoza: Mayweather 'Very Serious' About Pacquiao Rematch

[Dosumpthin]

Here is the problem.

Floyd said that it was "JUST rehydration" and explained why:
- giving blood (but hadn't for 10 days)
- giving urine (is a joke)
- training (but this happened after the weigh-in and after Floyd said in multiple interviews that training is over. Just light "shakeout" and relaxing)

1. "Just rehydration" makes sense since he was dehydrated. Unless he was using the IV to administer medication. But he used the IV to rehydrate. Pretty ****** of you to keep posting this.

2. Floyd never said giving urine and blood made him dehydrated. That's a lie. In fact Floyd never confirmed any medical condition that could have CAUSED the dehydration. He has only stated old age and training help contribute to he dehydrated state.

Floyd's bag too could have contained anything including something that can help mask and is undetectable. Who knows!

1. Floyd gave a partial sample IMMEDIATELY BEFORE using the IV in the presence of the DCO.

2. WADA RULES instruct the labs to ignore the decision limit and threshold of a threshold substance if it is known by the lab that a masking agent was used. Kills your dilution threshold conspiracy completely.

BUT what Floyd did is illegal as per the rules.

False. WADA rules permit retro TUES for obvious reasons such as there is no way to predict acute medical concerns.

There was no emergency! Even later when Floyd had time to think about it, he still didn't say that it was a medical emergency! Did not mention that he had diarrhea …. and if he did, why was his weight rock solid stable? You ever had severe diarrhea? You lose a ton of weight!!!!!

WADA rules list conditions in which a retro TUE may be granted. Medical emergency is only ONE of them.

Remember when you claimed "or" really meant "and"?

More importantly, no one knows Floyd's the medical condition and all you have is speculation. Last I checked speculation is not a fact.

What's evident is USADA and the TUEC was satisfied with the events that transpired and granted the TUE.

but as stated, he said "just rehydration"!!!! you can't make this sh$$t up! It was just to recover from dehydration but his weight was OK and he was to notify the NSAC if it was a serious medical condition. Even Showtime's Epilogue mentions this when they knew only about Manny's shoulder injury but had yet to know about Floyd! So rules apply only to others not Floyd?

You are making most of it up - just like when you're intentionally misquoting people. Or offering speculation as fact. Or spreading misinformation. Or coming to conclusions based on rumors.

HBO?

The head of WADA TUEC Committee and who is also a doctor too agrees with me that Floyd should not have received an IV and if he did, then it would mean that he would be in no condition to fight Manny!!!!

The head of WADA TUEC stated he did not know the "details" surrounding Floyd's IV. It would make logical sense to conclude that there are "details" that would justify the IV. OR ELSE HE WOULD NOT HAVE SAID I DO NOT THE THE DETAILS before offering his expertise.

[Raonic]

I think we all knew Floyd was lying when he said he was retiring. It was like the 5th time he went on an extended leave.

[ADP02]

Here is the problem.

Floyd said that it was "JUST rehydration" and explained why:
- giving blood (but hadn't for 10 days)
- giving urine (is a joke)
- training (but this happened after the weigh-in and after Floyd said in multiple interviews that training is over. Just light "shakeout" and relaxing)


Floyd's bag too could have contained anything including something that can help mask and is undetectable. Who knows!

BUT what Floyd did is illegal as per the rules.

There was no emergency! Even later when Floyd had time to think about it, he still didn't say that it was a medical emergency! Did not mention that he had diarrhea …. and if he did, why was his weight rock solid stable? You ever had severe diarrhea? You lose a ton of weight!!!!!


but as stated, he said "just rehydration"!!!! you can't make this sh$$t up! It was just to recover from dehydration but his weight was OK and he was to notify the NSAC if it was a serious medical condition. Even Showtime's Epilogue mentions this when they knew only about Manny's shoulder injury but had yet to know about Floyd! So rules apply only to others not Floyd?

HBO?

The head of WADA TUEC Committee and who is also a doctor too agrees with me that Floyd should not have received an IV and if he did, then it would mean that he would be in no condition to fight Manny!!!!

Doesn't matter what Floyd says publicly. He may not have wanted to show weakness to his opponent or spectators. He may have had explosive diarrhea or some other embarrassing condition. All that matters is the medical information analyzed by the TUE committee of doctors. Floyd's public statements are irrelevant.

It doesn't matter what Floyd says publicly? WOW!


He signed the NSAC pre-fight forms stating that there were no serious medical issues! Again, does this just apply to everyone not named Floyd?



Embarrassing?

You do realize that we are talking about Floyd, right?

Did you hear what Floyd/Ellerbe came up as excuses?
Giving urine contributed to him getting an IV? Saying that BS LIE is embarrassing!!!!

Floyd said after fights that he injected Xylocaine in BOTH hands but now is too embarrassed to say that he had diarrhea? Do you actually believe the nonsense that you said?


The guy was supposedly retiring. What was there to hide?


BUT

when you are severally dehydrated due to diarrhea you lose excessive amounts of fluids. Why was his weight rock solid stable?

BUT

an IV wouldn't cure the medical issue!

BUT

He was never sent to the hospital!!!

BUT

His vital signs were all NORMAL!!!

BUT

he said it was "Just rehydration"

BUT

He didn't want his opponent to know his ailment? Floyd said that AFTER his fight!!!

BUT

Floyd was OK doing interviews both BEFORE and AFTER he received the ILLEGAL BANNED IV!!!

BUT

We have evidence of Floyd drinking plenty of fluids after the weigh in!!!!

BUT

walks around 150, 148. Weighed relatively the same for 1 month and admits to weighing that much for a decade. So where is that weight loss of fluids? the science does NOT add up.


BUT


USADA/WADA

"Just rehydration".
Admit that all that the athlete needs to do is drink a couple of cups of fluids per pound lost. Floyd lost relatively little!!!!!


BUT


Did you not see Dr Ariza clinging on to Floyd and made sure that he stayed as hydrated as possible? This is Dr Ariza who people have said is known to hyper-hydrate his athletes NOT have them left to "dry" …. dehydrated!

Furthermore, Floyd thanked Dr Ariza for how he was well taken care!

A Dr Ariza who monitors his athletes! All part of their plan.



BUT


The head of WADA TUEC Committee and who is also a doctor too agrees with me that Floyd should not have received an IV and if he did, then it would mean that he would be in no condition to fight Manny!!!!

BUT

We have videos of him both BEFORE and AFTER. Nobody and I mean NOBODY said that something looked wrong with Floyd INCLUDING FLOYD!!!!

In fact, he said the opposite and invited FloydHype. Would you be having an interview if there was an emergency type situation? Furthermore, would you be discussing that others get drained not himself, Floyd?

See, none of this makes sense!!!

FLOYD MAYWEATHER RELAXING AS HE TALKS PACQUIAO AND MORE LESS THAN 24 HOURS BEFORE SHOWDOWN

"I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148...I'm extremely happy with everything… right now

stated undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, who invited FightHype.com into his home less than 24 hours before he steps into the ring to face Manny Pacquiao.

[ADP02]

1. "Just rehydration" makes sense since he was dehydrated. Unless he was using the IV to administer medication. But he used the IV to rehydrate. Pretty ****** of you to keep posting this.

2. Floyd never said giving urine and blood made him dehydrated. That's a lie. In fact Floyd never confirmed any medical condition that could have CAUSED the dehydration. He has only stated old age and training help contribute to he dehydrated state.








1. Floyd gave a partial sample IMMEDIATELY BEFORE using the IV in the presence of the DCO.

2. WADA RULES instruct the labs to ignore the decision limit and threshold of a threshold substance if it is known by the lab that a masking agent was used. Kills your dilution threshold conspiracy completely.





False. WADA rules permit retro TUES for obvious reasons such as there is no way to predict acute medical concerns.



WADA rules list conditions in which a retro TUE may be granted. Medical emergency is only ONE of them.

Remember when you claimed "or" really meant "and"?

More importantly, no one knows Floyd's the medical condition and all you have is speculation. Last I checked speculation is not a fact.

What's evident is USADA and the TUEC was satisfied with the events that transpired and granted the TUE.



You are making most of it up - just like when you're intentionally misquoting people. Or offering speculation as fact. Or spreading misinformation. Or coming to conclusions based on rumors.







The head of WADA TUEC stated he did not know the "details" surrounding Floyd's IV. It would make logical sense to conclude that there are "details" that would justify the IV. OR ELSE HE WOULD NOT HAVE SAID I DO NOT THE THE DETAILS before offering his expertise.

1) No it's ****** of Floyd fans to not be listening to Floyd and company when they tell you that there were no medical issues other than him needing an IV to recover hence "just rehydration".

Since you guys know that if it was "just rehydration" that no way that USADA should have given him a RETRO TUE since they state that is not a valid reason, you Floyd fans come up with alternate ailments that are not mentioned by Floyd not before not after the fight and that Floyd fans excuses are not even coo berated with his pre-fight form that was signed by Floyd nor that interview!


Yes we should have known his serious medical condition since it had to be reported to the NSAC, remember? It cannot be a big secret! Sorry!

Go check out the Showtime Epilogue. They wanted us to all remember that a fighter had to let the NSAC know about all previous and on-going medical conditions. Well, the NSAC didn't know until about it until 3 weeks after the fight!



FINALLY,

In that interview with Floyd/Ellerbe, they admitted that:

- It was JUST Rehydration

- It was nothing out of the ordinary OOOPS!!!!









2) I lied? NO WAY Mr. DoNOTIN AKA DUCKY AKA Travestyny

The stuttering Floyd passed it on to Ellerbe to provide the excuses. Ellerbe said urine and blood being taken then Floyd followed up with what? No its not true what Ellerbe said? No!

PLUS
Go check out the video. Floyd is actually providing a visual of himself getting his blood taken from him!!!! In other words, he is agreeing with Ellerbe.

KABADABOOOOOOOOM!





3) Is a partial sample enough? Nope. They require a FULL urine sample!!!!




4) Yes, I read your ALT Travestyny bring this up to. It took you a while to know about this. Cong****! Nothing new as far as I am concerned! The issue would then become the banned masking agent IF it is picked up by the tests. The thing is that chemists such as Memo Heredia have said that they can come up with 20 ways to mask without the LABs picking it up. Ariza consulted with Memo for the Floyd fight ... but that is just an example.



USADA/WADA RULES
Sorry but they have these rules. You do not like these rules because Floyd used the BANNED ILLEGAL IV. As much as you keep on saying that it is not possible since the LABs would catch everyone then the next question is then why does USADA/WADA have these rules if you say that everyone would get caught anyways?
and that is what I keep on telling you! Go tell USADA/WADA that they are WRONG!

"WADA please remove this rule. LABs will catch the cheat anyways" - signed DoNoting, the DUCKY



5) The head of the TUEC Committee and doctor states that Floyd should not have received an IV because that is not how a RETRO TUE should be used. he went on to state that if Floyd really required that RETRO TUE, there would be no fight because Floyd would have been in no condition to be fighting Manny!!!



6) Go check out my above response #5. If that guy doesn't think Floyd should have received the RETRO TUE then Floyd shouldn't have!!! The doctor knows about rehydration very well being that he is an expert and doctor and states that Floyd should have just drank fluids!



7) I'm not making things up. If I provided a partial quote, all you had to do is ask why and I would have responded. I more often than not, provide much more direct responses than you Mr DEFLECTO!!!



8) Sorry but I can understand someone who has never read my posts saying that I provided a partial response but you? Come on. I have said it well over 100 times. If there is a small percentage of times where I do not say it PERFECTLY to satisfy you then that is BAD on YOU not me!!! That is, you know by now what I meant!!!

That is just a DUCK move by you, DUCKY!!!




9)

ADP02
The head of WADA TUEC Committee and who is also a doctor too agrees with me that Floyd should not have received an IV and if he did, then it would mean that he would be in no condition to fight Manny!!!!

See. You are not providing the truth of what the WADA expert said. Go check out my #5 response. He explained it using Floyd's name!!!!

He said that Floyd shouldn't have received the RETRO TUE and if he did it meant that he was in no condition to fight.


There is no other way that even a Floyd fan can translate what the Head of the WADA TUEC Committee and doctor meant. He was as direct and CLEAR. BUT I told you this already a "MILLION TIMES", DUCKY!!!






Your hero Floyd
- Didn't go to no hospital
- Why should he have gone to the hospital when his vitals were all normal and there was nothing wrong with him? LOL
- Weight was rock solid stable
- His pre-fight form had no serious medical conditions
- We saw him drinking fluids!
- Dr Ariza was monitoring him like a hawk. Floyd even thanked him!
- It was "JUST REHYDRATION". Rules state to recoup from simple hydration you need a TUE in advance at all times!!!
- It was at worst mild dehydration.
- I can get you multiple interviews where Floyd says that he walks at 150, 148!
- I can get you multiple interviews/tapes of Floyd after the weigh-in and even after the IV.
- After getting the IV Floyd said that he doesn't get drained like other fighters and why he doesn't.
- Floyd's interviews state that he was just doing a "shakeout" type activity and relaxing in his final days. For sure he wouldn't be ****** enough to be extremely dehydrated especially with Dr Ariza monitoring him!


QUACK, QUACK, QUACK!!!!


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[harry-greb]

There are countless examples of the WBC favoring the biggest stars and biggest promoters. It's a big part of why they became the most famous belt. But it's also why they never had to resort to blatant bribery like the other three groups. They had the biggest stars and biggest promoters, and therefore the biggest sanctioning fees, so taking cash bribes to rig the ratings was beneath them.




WBA isn't the oldest. Their origins come from the NBA, while the WBC was formed out of the IBU, NYSAC and NSC, all of which predate the NBA and Ring.

Ring is now owned by Golden Boy Promotions, so their belt is absolutely worthless.

"Taking bribes to rig rankings was beneath them". Are u joking??

Wba formed in 1962
Wbc formed in 1963

[N/A]

"Taking bribes to rig rankings was beneath them". Are u joking??

No, not joking. Sulaiman was independently wealthy and wasn't going to waste his time with $750 bribes to rank a random bantamweight.

Wba formed in 1962
Wbc formed in 1963

WBC was a merger of several titles that date back a hundred years. WBA was a reboot of the NBA. 62/63 is simply when the old school IBU/NBA/NYSAC titles were modernized, but they existed long before 62/63.

[harry-greb]

No, not joking. Sulaiman was independently wealthy and wasn't going to waste his time with $750 bribes to rank a random bantamweight.




WBC was a merger of several titles that date back a hundred years. WBA was a reboot of the NBA. 62/63 is simply when the old school IBU/NBA/NYSAC titles were modernized, but they existed long before 62/63.

Mergers and acquisitions are moot.
Wba 1962
Wbc 1963
And they are as corrupt as each other.
Lineal title is all that matters

[IronDanHamza]

In the words of Micheal Scott;

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

[harry-greb]

No, not joking. Sulaiman was independently wealthy and wasn't going to waste his time with $750 bribes to rank a random bantamweight.




WBC was a merger of several titles that date back a hundred years. WBA was a reboot of the NBA. 62/63 is simply when the old school IBU/NBA/NYSAC titles were modernized, but they existed long before 62/63.

$750?? Con Jose never got outta bed for less than $10,000

[N/A]

Mergers and acquisitions are moot.

Just because you say that doesn't make it so. The NYSAC world championship was the more respected than the NBA. The IBU predates them all. The IBU & NYSAC titles became the WBC title. Know your history.

And they are as corrupt as each other.

You're lying. Arum admitted publicly all the WBA ratings were bought and paid for. The WBC has never had a bribery scandal, unlike all of the other groups.

Lineal title is all that matters

All that matters to you. Congratulations. The belts are what matters to the public, fighters, networks, managers, promoters, etc.