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  • Mirus
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    #31
    Originally posted by alexnation
    Mikey Garcia over Canelo? please quit your job
    Why must Canelo be above Mickey? For losing to Lara, GGG twice? For beating old Cotto?

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    • Mirus
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      #32
      Originally posted by SniXSniPe
      -Rigondeaux (P4P but smaller)
      -Gary Russell Jr. - Top 3 fighter @ 126 and as of right now, probably borderline P4P.
      -Walters (borderline P4P) - Top 2 fighter @ 126, Top 5 fighter @ 130. Never had a close fight and got robbed of a dominant victory over Sosa. Only person to EVER stop Donaire.
      -Linares (world champ) - Top 3 fighter @ 135
      -Sosa (world champ) - weakest link, still a world champion and was able to pull off a KO against Fortuna.
      -Roman Martinez (world champ) - Completely schooled and dominated. Same guy that dropped Mikey.


      Canelo:
      Controversial/close win against Lara.
      Controversial fights against Golovkin.
      Win over Trout. Good win, close fight.
      Win over Cotto, who didn't do much his last 5 years besides beat a broken Sergio Martinez. Lost to Trout, Floyd, Canelo, and then ended his career with a defeat to Sadam Ali...



      There is definitely room to make an argument here. Just because a fighter is higher than another one doesn't mean it's not close. For what it's worth, I have: Crawford, Loma, Usyk, Canelo, and then Mikey--- and it's close between them all. Even then, this is only under the assumption I believe he won the last GGG fight (and I don't know, I didn't score it, I personally felt after watching it is was a close fight for sure, however. Would have been fine with a draw).
      Good explanation! Thank you!

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #33
        The usual suspects triggered as usual by someone that knows the sport putting Crawford ahead of Loma.

        I have posted before that Usyk IMO has a real case to be #1 so I really disagree with him being down at 5. Way too low IMO. I have the following list as of now:

        1. Crawford
        2. Lomachenko
        3. Usyk
        4. Mikey
        5. Inoue
        6. Sor Rungvisai
        7. Canelo Alvarez
        8. GGG
        9. Spence
        10. Joshua

        If you have Crawford, Loma or Usyk #1 I don't really have an issue.

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        • BIG GUNZ
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          #34
          Good list, but not sure about the order & I don’t know if I’d have Santa Cruz on there. The other 9 I defintely agree with but I don’t think that’s the order I’d have them in.

          Edit:

          1. Crawford
          2. Lomachenko
          3. Usyk
          4. Mikey Garcia
          5. Canelo
          6. GGG
          7. Spence
          8. Inoue
          9. Rungvisai
          10. Santa Cruz

          Decided to keep Santa Cruz since I couldn’t find anyone else that should be on it. Thurman hasn’t fought in 18 months so I can’t put him on it.
          Last edited by BIG GUNZ; 10-01-2018, 12:49 PM.

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          • dukesville
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            #35
            This guy Inoue is not anywhere near the top, he has proven absolutely nothing. Its ridiculous how a lot of websites and espn are trying to hype this guy. And I like watching Spence fights and I think he's going to do good things in the future but he shouldn't be there either. At this point I think Canelo and Usyk are the top 2 and the 3rd spot is up for debate.

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            • Death_Adder
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              #36
              How is Crawford so high? He hasn't beaten anyone. Seriously, why is he so far up? What has he done to prove he belongs at the top spot?

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              • alexnation
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                #37
                Originally posted by Mirus
                Why must Canelo be above Mickey? For losing to Lara, GGG twice? For beating old Cotto?
                any formidable opponents that Mikey beat? Although I do agree with you that Canelo lost to GGG both fights, he put up a very close fight with him, and GGG is an iron chin monster who always goes for the kill. Mikey simply doesn't have a single good name among his former opponents to put up there next to Canelo. Salido was probably the biggest win. Easter in a no one

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                • Shadoww702
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by SniXSniPe
                  -Rigondeaux (P4P but smaller)
                  -Gary Russell Jr. - Top 3 fighter @ 126 and as of right now, probably borderline P4P.
                  -Walters (borderline P4P) - Top 2 fighter @ 126, Top 5 fighter @ 130. Never had a close fight and got robbed of a dominant victory over Sosa. Only person to EVER stop Donaire.
                  -Linares (world champ) - Top 3 fighter @ 135
                  -Sosa (world champ) - weakest link, still a world champion and was able to pull off a KO against Fortuna.
                  -Roman Martinez (world champ) - Completely schooled and dominated. Same guy that dropped Mikey.


                  Canelo:
                  Controversial/close win against Lara.
                  Controversial fights against Golovkin.
                  Win over Trout. Good win, close fight.
                  Win over Cotto, who didn't do much his last 5 years besides beat a broken Sergio Martinez. Lost to Trout, Floyd, Canelo, and then ended his career with a defeat to Sadam Ali...



                  There is definitely room to make an argument here. Just because a fighter is higher than another one doesn't mean it's not close. For what it's worth, I have: Crawford, Loma, Usyk, Canelo, and then Mikey--- and it's close between them all. Even then, this is only under the assumption I believe he won the last GGG fight (and I don't know, I didn't score it, I personally felt after watching it is was a close fight for sure, however. Would have been fine with a draw).
                  So you pump the sht out of one resume and spit on anothers to try and make your BIASED as *** point??

                  1st Cotto was ranked P4P #9 at the time.

                  2nd Salido was a BAD loss. He was a HUGE, HUGE underdog with double digit losses. Which Garcia dropped like 5 times and won practically every round

                  Walters SUKS.

                  Linares Kahn Jr. has a Round 1 KO loss and a round 2. Guys have 9 and 5 losses now. A dude Broner smashed TKO'd him also.

                  Martinez LOL you brought him up?? Just because he dropped Mikey???

                  Man this dude is ALL on LOMA's NUTS!!!

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                  • Shadoww702
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Mirus
                    Why must Canelo be above Mickey? For losing to Lara, GGG twice? For beating old Cotto?
                    Last I lookes canelo has a WIN over Lara and over Canelo. *** your fake make up sht

                    This same Idiot gave GGG 10-2 rounds...

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                    • aztec_warriors
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                      #40
                      This a joke?

                      this list a JOKE... Crawford #1??? LOL his resume weak as fk

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