Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Canelo-Golovkin, Saunders-Andrade, More

[aboutfkntime]

You throw this out there . . . please provide the data for this claim.

1) Most pro boxers and trainers (provide the data).

You throw this ****** comment out there based on what?

based on this.....



and this.....

Devin Haney
Gavin Rees
John Molina
Abner Mares
Michael Colin
Roberto Duran

and lists like this.....

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=793078

[dukesville]

You throw this out there . . . please provide the data for this claim.

1) Most pro boxers and trainers (provide the data).

You throw this ****** comment out there based on what?

Well you keep bringing up "polls" that who knows if there factual or not. What I say here is out there, on the internet Twitter for example go look for them and hear it from their own mouths on YouTube.

[Diego Rodriguez]

based on this.....



and this.....

Devin Haney
Gavin Rees
John Molina
Abner Mares
Michael Colin
Roberto Duran

and lists like this.....

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=793078

Don't read your stuff you know that Pigeon Man. I know have a sick fascination with me but you aren't getting any where. You can read my response to other posters but you won't get one freak.

[Diego Rodriguez]

Well you keep bringing up "polls" that who knows if there factual or not. What I say here is out there, on the internet Twitter for example go look for them and hear it from their own mouths on YouTube.

The poll results are factual. You can determine whether they are representative or not. When I say poll after poll saying the same thing yes I believe that has meaning.

I do not doubt there are boxers and trainers who thought Canelo won. We have a very small sample size. There are also guys in boxing like Lennox Lewis, James Toney, Paulie, Pac . . . who thought Golovkin won.

In the end I really don't care. I saw the fight and I thought Golovkin won. Each person will need to make their own determination. I thought it was a great fight I just thought the wrong guy was rewarded.

[dukesville]

The poll results are factual. You can determine whether they are representative or not. When I say poll after poll saying the same thing yes I believe that has meaning.

I do not doubt there are boxers and trainers who thought Canelo won. We have a very small sample size. There are also guys in boxing like Lennox Lewis, James Toney, Paulie, Pac . . . who thought Golovkin won.

In the end I really don't care. I saw the fight and I thought Golovkin won. Each person will need to make their own determination. I thought it was a great fight I just thought the wrong guy was rewarded.

If you really don't care why not just state your opinion instead of this "most people this or that" crap? Just state your own opinion and thats it.

[bigdunny1]

You throw this out there . . . please provide the data for this claim.

1) Most pro boxers and trainers (provide the data).

You throw this ****** comment out there based on what?

Here is some data bytch azzzz all these fighters and trainers said Canelo beat GGG.

Yeah what do these boxers know. Now go fetch a list for GGG and lets compare who has more fighters and the quality of the fighters that are saying Canelo won NOT GGG.

Mike Tyson
George Foreman
Julio Cesar Chavez
Miguel Cotto
Robert Garcia
Jorge Arce
Willie Monroe
Caleb Traux
Austin Trout
Cornelius K9 Bundridge
Andre Ward
Amir Khan
Marco Antonio Barrera
Mikey Garcia
Andy Lee
Martin Murray
Errol Spence
Sergio Mora
Bernard Hopkins
Jorge Linares
Peter Quillin
Tony Bellew
David Haye
Floyd Mayweather SR
Erik Morales
David Lemieux
Julin Williams
Peter Smith
Liam Smith
Jermell Charlo
Jermall Charlo
Claressa Shields
Steve Bunce
Caleb Plant
Jason Quigley
Anthony Fowler
Dave Coldwell
Badou Jack
Jaime Munguia
Andy Lee
Jeff Mayweather
Dewey Cooper
Luis Tapia
Ladarious Miller
Kevin Newmen
Rolando Romero
Fernando Vargas
Adam Booth
Josh Kelly
Jorge Travieso Arce
Humberto Chiquita González
Shakur Stevenson
Devin Haney
Gavin Rees
John Molina
Brandon Krause
Curtis Stevens
Ashley Theophane
Abner Mares
Michael Conlan
Roberto Duran

[Diego Rodriguez]

If you really don't care why not just state your opinion instead of this "most people this or that" crap? Just state your own opinion and thats it.

Again why so insecure?

I can state my opinion based on what I have gathered (I believe most people saw Golovkin win) and can also make my own specific determination of what I personally saw (he won in my book).

[bigdunny1]

Well you keep bringing up "polls" that who knows if there factual or not. What I say here is out there, on the internet Twitter for example go look for them and hear it from their own mouths on YouTube.

GGG fans as soon as the fight ended went to look for any so called media guy that didn't have Canelo winning the fight and rounded up every blog even if the there was only 5 people following that blog. If the fighters and trainers were saying GGG won they would jumped on that and put together a huge list. They didn't because overwhelmingly the fighters thought Canelo beat GGG. Like it's not even really close. For every name you want to say thought GGG won I can list at minimum 5-10 more that said Canelo won. We talking hall of famers, elite fighters, P4P ranked fighters. The fighters saw the fight the same way the judges saw it. The media was on some uber fanboy shyt opening rooting for GGG. For example Fat Boy dan scoring the fight while his twitter background is a picture of GGG. The media are the ones who hyped and created GGG and were butt sore that Canelo whooped his azzz. Fighters, trainers, judges (including the 1 judge who gave the first fight to GGG) all saw the fight the same way in favor on Canelo.

[dukesville]

Again why so insecure?

I can state my opinion based on what I have gathered (I believe most people saw Golovkin win) and can also make my own specific determination of what I personally saw (he won in my book).

Well you just admitted your opinion is influenced by what others say I don't know if you realize it or not but thats what you just admitted to.

[Diego Rodriguez]

Here is some data bytch azzzz all these fighters and trainers said Canelo beat GGG.

Yeah what do these boxers know. Now go fetch a list for GGG and lets compare who has more fighters and the quality of the fighters that are saying Canelo won NOT GGG.

Mike Tyson
George Foreman
Julio Cesar Chavez
Miguel Cotto
Robert Garcia
Jorge Arce
Willie Monroe
Caleb Traux
Austin Trout
Cornelius K9 Bundridge
Andre Ward
Amir Khan
Marco Antonio Barrera
Mikey Garcia
Andy Lee
Martin Murray
Errol Spence
Sergio Mora
Bernard Hopkins
Jorge Linares
Peter Quillin
Tony Bellew
David Haye
Floyd Mayweather SR
Erik Morales
David Lemieux
Julin Williams
Peter Smith
Liam Smith
Jermell Charlo
Jermall Charlo
Claressa Shields
Steve Bunce
Caleb Plant
Jason Quigley
Anthony Fowler
Dave Coldwell
Badou Jack
Jaime Munguia
Andy Lee
Jeff Mayweather
Dewey Cooper
Luis Tapia
Ladarious Miller
Kevin Newmen
Rolando Romero
Fernando Vargas
Adam Booth
Josh Kelly
Jorge Travieso Arce
Humberto Chiquita González
Shakur Stevenson
Devin Haney
Gavin Rees
John Molina
Brandon Krause
Curtis Stevens
Ashley Theophane
Abner Mares
Michael Conlan
Roberto Duran

You are too dumb too follow the conversation. This is a list of boxers and trainers (I said I have already seen this list in fact). How does this represent most boxers and trainers? I never said that there weren't trainers and boxers who thought Canelo won (I've even said it may be most) but a list is not a statistical data point.