Comments Thread For: Bellew: Usyk Doesn't Have The Size To Beat Anthony Joshua

Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • SeGoodland
    Banned
    Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
    • Jun 2018
    • 749
    • 32
    • 35
    • 18,895

    #21
    Originally posted by lefthooklead
    It's not size that'll beat Joshua, it's footwork, angles, feints and movement.
    It didn't really work too well for Povetkin though, did it? Size matters in the majority of HW fights.

    Especially when gap between the fighters is as big as it is between AJ and Usyk.

    Comment

    • LetOutTheCage
      Undisputed Champion
      • Jul 2015
      • 4314
      • 163
      • 314
      • 47,581

      #22
      Joe Joyce is 6ft6 and Uysk had no problem dealing with him

      Comment

      • lefthooklead
        Interim Champion
        Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
        • Dec 2012
        • 552
        • 28
        • 39
        • 10,454

        #23
        Originally posted by SeGoodland
        It didn't really work too well for Povetkin though, did it? Size matters in the majority of HW fights.

        Especially when gap between the fighters is as big as it is between AJ and Usyk.
        Pov is nearly 40, only has a good 4/5 rounds in him and is smaller than Usyk. Plus, he doesn't really have all those attributes I mentioned but still did pretty well for small, old guy.

        It'll also most likely be a mover that'll beat Josh, someone who boxes well on the back foot and counters well. He can't really deal with angles and movement and never has.

        Comment

        • SeGoodland
          Banned
          Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
          • Jun 2018
          • 749
          • 32
          • 35
          • 18,895

          #24
          Originally posted by lefthooklead
          Pov is nearly 40, only has a good 4/5 rounds in him and is smaller than Usyk. Plus, he doesn't really have all those attributes I mentioned but still did pretty well for small, old guy.

          It'll also most likely be a mover that'll beat Josh, someone who boxes well on the back foot and counters well. He can't really deal with angles and movement and never has.
          Yes, you are right; he is nearly 40. But he went 12 with Hammer and won on UD.

          Yes, you are right; Usyk is bigger, by 1 inch but are divided by a stone in their respective last bouts. When (or if) Usyk moves up to HW, then we will see how mobile and fit he is. If he stays at the minimum for HW, he will be fast but you can't surrender over 3 stone to a World Champion and really expect to win - cue the Valuev v Haye, 7 stone difference!

          When you say a boxer who can move, at HW, there is only one person that has the size and ability to beat Joshua, that man is Tyson Fury.

          Comment

          • ceylon mooney
            Undisputed Champion
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Sep 2016
            • 1563
            • 28
            • 0
            • 22,559

            #25
            Originally posted by SniXSniPe
            How much harder do people think Joshua hits than someone like Gassiev?
            i was just wondering that. hmn.

            id rather see him stay at 200 and watch folks try to take his crown. he conquered. lets see him rule.

            Comment

            • DonJunker
              Up and Comer
              Interim Champion - 1-100 posts
              • Jan 2016
              • 45
              • 13
              • 8
              • 10,120

              #26
              Tyson Fury

              Comment

              • Ake-Dawg
                Undisputed Champion
                Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                • Jun 2016
                • 5510
                • 127
                • 80
                • 76,361

                #27
                Usyk can beat Joshua, but he'd have to fight a near perfect fight over 12 rounds. He'd have to get great body work done countering the Joshua jab. Definitely doable. The problem he'll have is keeping Joshua from landing flush, even if its on the gloves. I wouldn't pick him to win against Joshua, but wouldn't be surprised if he pulled off the upset.

                Comment

                • JakeTheBoxer
                  undisputed champion
                  Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 20986
                  • 4,583
                  • 2,782
                  • 123,960

                  #28
                  Povetkin is short, but he punches hard. he is strong hw. usyk is nowhere near Povetkin.

                  Comment

                  • Laligalaliga
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                    • Mar 2018
                    • 6439
                    • 71
                    • 11
                    • 90,109

                    #29
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                    Usyk does more unsubtle things in the ring I think you are discounting too easily.

                    As much as Joshua looks like a genetic freak with his size, Usyk is a genetic freak with his ability.
                    A single punch that landed correctly will eliminate every genetic freak ability trust me.

                    As dangerous as podvetkin left hook was, a straight right hand was the beginning of the end.

                    In HW, power is 70% advantage, Others can follow. That's why wilder keeps winning fights. Most of his fights were won basically cos of his power. He care less about ring IQ and over time we have come to learn that ring IQ is secondary in HW division.

                    Comment

                    • champion4ever
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 23509
                      • 3,942
                      • 6,820
                      • 202,915,785

                      #30
                      He doesn't need size. The first thing he needs is good stamina, defense and reflexes. Then the rest such as: Quickness, speed, mobility and agility will all fall into place

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP