Comments Thread For: Bellew: Usyk Doesn't Have The Size To Beat Anthony Joshua

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  • Eff Pandas
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    #11
    Originally posted by pillowfists98
    Significantly harder. Usyk will also have a 4 inch height and reach disadvantage to deal with.
    The only guy to ever stop Joshua (as an amateur obviously) a year before he won his Olympic medal was 5'11.

    I don't think height matters THAT much in general at HW when its two bigger guys, but certainly not when its only a few inches & there are much more important things in play like Joshua's power & Usyk's ring IQ.
    Last edited by Eff Pandas; 09-26-2018, 10:15 PM.

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    • pillowfists98
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      #12
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
      The only guy to ever stop Joshua (as an amateur obviously) a year before he won his Olympic medal was 5'11.

      I don't think height matters THAT much in general, but certainly not when its only a few inches & there are much more important things in play like Joshua's power & Usyk's ring IQ.
      I think it will matter. Usyk will find it harder to land punches against a taller longer guy with a good jab. Those subtle things make a difference.

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        #13
        Originally posted by lefthooklead
        It's not size that'll beat Joshua, it's footwork, angles, feints and movement.
        100%. Its much more likely the person who does beat Joshua does so with ring IQ vs size. I mean f#ck who's bigger than Joshua in the division who can fight as good or better any damn way? I'm not sure there is anyone. Joshua is a genetic freak.

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          #14
          Originally posted by pillowfists98
          I think it will matter. Usyk will find it harder to land punches against a taller longer guy with a good jab. Those subtle things make a difference.
          Usyk does more unsubtle things in the ring I think you are discounting too easily.

          As much as Joshua looks like a genetic freak with his size, Usyk is a genetic freak with his ability.

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            #15
            Not in the least bit interested in watching Joshua fight Another smaller man .
            And I was a Big fan of the WBSS so no knock on Usyk . Just not a particular match up I'd like to see .

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              #16
              it won't be a matter of size. look at what usyk did to joyce in the wsb

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                #17
                Originally posted by Dean_Razorback
                it won't be a matter of size. look at what usyk did to joyce in the wsb
                Joyce is much slower and stiffer than Joshua. Usyk can probably beat most heavyweights but beating Joshua will be very tough for him I think.
                Last edited by pillowfists98; 09-27-2018, 12:47 AM.

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                  #18
                  i think people are actually under rating the boxing skills of Bum Joshua...

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                    #19
                    If it was only a 6 round fight, I'd put all my money on Usyk to outbox AJ and win on points. Over 12 rounds though... that's a long time keep someone with a considerable height, reach, and weight advantage of you. As good as Usyk is, he has little moments where he switches off - Briedis dragged him into a dogfight, and Gassiev caught him with a couple of decent shots. It would be like a bullfight, but AJ would catch him late on and not stop until Usyk stayed down.
                    Usyk beats any HW below 6ft 5in though.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                      100%. Its much more likely the person who does beat Joshua does so with ring IQ vs size. I mean f#ck who's bigger than Joshua in the division who can fight as good or better any damn way? I'm not sure there is anyone. Joshua is a genetic freak.
                      If Fury can get back to what he was, then he could beat AJ on points in a game of cat and mouse. I don't think he can recapture that form, but we'll see on Dec 01st.
                      Wilder could land a lucky punch and spark AJ out, same way he does in every fight. I think AJ would fight Dempsey-esque though, roll under the range finding jab and overpower him.

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