Why do people think Paul Williams had ANY chance against Floyd?

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  • GhostofDempsey
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    #121
    Originally posted by Code Red
    Excellent boxing skills?? Did you just say that?
    Good enough to beat the fighters I mentioned, the ones Floyd ducked.

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    • dibzvincent143
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      #122
      Originally posted by j.razor
      I seen the video & it looked like one of bob's workers was trying to make Floyd look bad but Floyd told him to bring something to the table & not his 4 losses he had at the time....LOL....ALL this talk is just ways to try to discredit T.B.E.

      No it was Floyd looking funny you cannot edit his reaction and face at all. Not even the greatest hater can do that. As much as a fan I am he was shook but that’s okay he’s leagues apart from Margo when it was all said and done.

      Floyd says a lot about that. Oh u have 4 losses. Oh shane u have 5. Oh pac u have marquez problems.
      Oh sergio where were u when i was winning titles.
      Oh oh oh.
      Countless of BS reasons.

      At the end of the day he had a very very great career. There were fights that happened there were fights that didn’t. There were fights that happened too late and there were many.

      At the end of the day Sugar Ray Leonard had prime duran, prime benetiz, prime hearn and hagler as his best wins.

      Ali got prime foreman, spinks, frazier, and liston.

      Floyd got? Prime Corrales, prime castillo prime hmmm guerrero? Prime hatton

      Pac got prime Bradley, prime barrera prime ledwaba prime sasakul

      At the of the day u got what u got. Whether its ur fault or not doesn’t matter

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      • MalaysiaPac
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        #123
        Originally posted by revelated
        Which is exactly why I say the 4th fight outcome is really the only that mattered. You got two guys who don't get decisive victories three fights in, fourth fight, one guy gets a decisive victory; that's all she wrote bro.

        Marquez, Torrecampo, Singsurat, Floyd, and The Hornet are all better than Manny.
        No, you were trying to shift it on Manny only saying Pac couldn't decisively beat Marquez with 3 chances. As if Marquez was able to beat Manny all 3 times decisively. And that 4th fight don't count as much for your argument because like i said, if you give someone enough chances, more than likely, they'll be able to score one on you which is exactly what marquez did. With Pac's style, you dont keep giving other fighters chances because pac's style relied on speed and reaction. As you get older these starts to fade which is what marquez capitalize on.

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        • Curt Henning
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          #124
          Originally posted by dibzvincent143
          No it was Floyd looking funny you cannot edit his reaction and face at all. Not even the greatest hater can do that. As much as a fan I am he was shook but that’s okay he’s leagues apart from Margo when it was all said and done.

          Floyd says a lot about that. Oh u have 4 losses. Oh shane u have 5. Oh pac u have marquez problems.
          Oh sergio where were u when i was winning titles.
          Oh oh oh.
          Countless of BS reasons.

          At the end of the day he had a very very great career. There were fights that happened there were fights that didn’t. There were fights that happened too late and there were many.

          At the end of the day Sugar Ray Leonard had prime duran, prime benetiz, prime hearn and hagler as his best wins.

          Ali got prime foreman, spinks, frazier, and liston.

          Floyd got? Prime Corrales, prime castillo prime hmmm guerrero? Prime hatton

          Pac got prime Bradley, prime barrera prime ledwaba prime sasakul

          At the of the day u got what u got. Whether its ur fault or not doesn’t matter
          "at the end of the day u got what u got...whether is ur fault or not doesn't matter"

          wish some of these guys would apply that to all fighters....-cough cough-....golovkin

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          • SweetPbfAli
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            #125
            Originally posted by champion4ever
            Paul Williams' work rate would have been a tough outing for any fighter; Including Money May. The man averaged close to a 115 punches per round. Unless, Floyd out landed, blocked, slipped or dodged the vast majority of P Will's punches, then he could have very well made it interesting on the scorecards.
            Mayweather always reduced his opponents work rate. It's one of his gifts of knowing how to dictate pace and control the fight. Intriguing match for sure but ring IQ and pedigree would be the difference IMO.

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            • VatoMulatto
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              #126
              Originally posted by j.razor
              He's beat that MULTIPLE times in his career.
              Paul was 6'1 and physically a big man who just kept on moving forward. This would not be an easy fight for Floyd, unfortunately we never got to see this match-up.

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              • FrankieClutch
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                #127
                Originally posted by j.razor
                Cuz Floyd would of made him reset too much & kill that "Volume, volume, volume."
                So it would've been 9-3 at least then, in your opinion?

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                • maracho
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by j.razor
                  You are exposing yourself like hbo cuz Floyd was fighting people after they were on winning streaks. Pacquiao was the one fighting people who were losing fights....LMMFAO!
                  I dare you to put up a good comparative list ..lol

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                  • maracho
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by j.razor
                    You are exposing yourself like hbo cuz Floyd was fighting people after they were on winning streaks. Pacquiao was the one fighting people who were losing fights....LMMFAO!
                    He knew Floyd dont fight people unless Floyd knows he has some huge advantage(s)

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                    • ADP02
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by j.razor
                      Cuz Floyd would of made him reset too much & kill that "Volume, volume, volume."
                      Reset?

                      Maybe other fighters but Williams came at you if you threw or didn't throw. That is how he got KOd by a someone who is bigger and had more pop than Floyd Mayweather.


                      Floyd's style is great because it helps him avoid getting hit

                      but that style is not as effective against a southpaw since that shoulder roll doesn't cover Floyd up well.

                      but that style is not as effective against taller opponents with mobility and who can go over his shoulder roll.

                      but that style is not as effective against someone that has stamina and does NOT fade in the 2nd half of the fight.

                      but that style is not as effective against someone with a reach that can still connect as you are trying to move away from a punch.


                      Paul Williams had all that!!!


                      As for those who mentioned Sergio Martinez, well, Williams was still able to connect and do well. Sergio had some pop in his punches that helped him out. He is also taller and bigger than Floyd .
                      Remove that and Martinez would have been having a difficult time. Even with that pop in Sergio's punches, it never stopped Williams from coming forward. So that kills anyone that says that Floyd would have Williams reset each time.


                      From the names mentioned that gave Williams some problem, they were all southpaws. Still, Williams KOd Quintana in the rematch and was giving Sergio just as much as he got back.


                      Again,
                      Floyd at 147+ had no power to neutralize the bigger taller Williams.


                      Floyd's work rate is sub-par and would definitely make him lose this one. Floyd's defense is what made him win but with Williams, height, reach and constant high work rate output, it would be too much for Floyd.

                      Williams would "FIND" Floyd all night long. Nowhere to hide.




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                      Last edited by ADP02; 09-28-2018, 10:24 AM.

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