Wilder has earnt my respect this year.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Never been a huge Wilder fan and his lack of fundamentals and technical skill makes it unlikely I ever will be.

But this year he’s CHOSE to fight Luis Ortiz and Tyson Fury as voluntary defences. Just let that sink in... he’s fighting these guys voluntarily in an era where fighters consistently duck mandatories, top contenders, dangerous fighters etc.

Both Ortiz and Fury are very difficult to face stylistically and in the case of Ortiz the fight wasn’t even hugely rewarding financially. However they were/are both fights the public wanted/want to see and Wilder has delivered them when he wasn’t obliged to do so.

I won’t go into the AJ BS cause I can’t be bothered with all the fanboyism, but all those who understand the sport know what happened there...

Anyway, regardless of what you think of Wilder, if you are truly a genuine boxing fan, you have to respect his choice of opponents this year.

[_Rexy_]

agreed

but bro, you're gonna get your chit pushed in for this...especially since you're British haha

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

agreed

but bro, you're gonna get your chit pushed in for this...especially since you're British haha

😂😂I know man, let them hate... The truth is still the truth

[KillaCamNZ]

While I get your points, it's still hard to get past Wilder fighting a 54 year old man, and a guy coming off a near 3-year layoff.

He gets a hat tip, for sure. And it's a step up from the years of mediocrity beforehand. But let's not go overboard here.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

While I get your points, it's still hard to get past Wilder fighting a 54 year old man, and a guy coming off a near 3-year layoff.

He gets a hat tip, for sure. And it's a step up from the years of mediocrity beforehand. But let's not go overboard here.

Ortiz was 38, and Fury has fought twice this year. Let’s try and keep to the facts

[FRANKIE420247]

Yup he deserve it, fury got his tune ups in. Alot of fighters don't get one tune up. Wilder is fighting the man that beat the man

[Scipio2009]

Random question

Never been a huge Wilder fan and his lack of fundamentals and technical skill makes it unlikely I ever will be.

But this year he’s CHOSE to fight Luis Ortiz and Tyson Fury as voluntary defences. Just let that sink in... he’s fighting these guys voluntarily in an era where fighters consistently duck mandatories, top contenders, dangerous fighters etc.

Both Ortiz and Fury are very difficult to face stylistically and in the case of Ortiz the fight wasn’t even hugely rewarding financially. However they were/are both fights the public wanted/want to see and Wilder has delivered them when he wasn’t obliged to do so.

I won’t go into the AJ BS cause I can’t be bothered with all the fanboyism, but all those who understand the sport know what happened there...

Anyway, regardless of what you think of Wilder, if you are truly a genuine boxing fan, you have to respect his choice of opponents this year.

Completely off topic here, but did you manage to catch the Alvarez-Golovkin 2 fight in the UK, or know of anyone who watched the fight in the UK.

Was having a conversation in a separate post, where I was arguing my sense that there was likely a reach difference between the presentation/push for a fight from the UK by Sky Box Office, compared to BT Sport PPV however, not being a Brit, I had no real way to corroborate that.

Thanks for any info you can share

[famicommander]

I think Fury is a shot fighter but all the props in the world for fighting Ortiz.

Ortiz was a nightmare match up for Wilder. A smart, skilled, fundamentally sound counter puncher with knockout power, fighting from a southpaw stance no less.

I don't think there are many great fights left at heavyweight, though. Pulev would be interesting against either Wilder or Joshua, obviously Wilder vs Joshua is what we all want to see.

Ortiz vs Joshua would be interesting.

I don't think guys like Whyte, Chisora, Parker, Breazeale, Miller, Hughie, Kownacki, Jennings, etc are legitimate threats to either Joshua or Wilder.

Until the next crop of prospects is ready or some cruiserweights like Usyk come up, to me it's a four man division at best.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Completely off topic here, but did you manage to catch the Alvarez-Golovkin 2 fight in the UK, or know of anyone who watched the fight in the UK.

Was having a conversation in a separate post, where I was arguing my sense that there was likely a reach difference between the presentation/push for a fight from the UK by Sky Box Office, compared to BT Sport PPV however, not being a Brit, I had no real way to corroborate that.

Thanks for any info you can share

I attended the fight live bro, so haven’t really watched any of the BT broadcast apart from rewatching the fight itself when I got home.

Sky completely dominates the tv market in this country and further dominates the sports sector, hence the reason you get so many deluded idiots regurgitating all this Sky Sports propaganda.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I think Fury is a shot fighter but all the props in the world for fighting Ortiz.

Ortiz was a nightmare match up for Wilder. A smart, skilled, fundamentally sound counter puncher with knockout power, fighting from a southpaw stance no less.

I don't think there are many great fights left at heavyweight, though. Pulev would be interesting against either Wilder or Joshua, obviously Wilder vs Joshua is what we all want to see.

Ortiz vs Joshua would be interesting.

I don't think guys like Whyte, Chisora, Parker, Breazeale, Miller, Hughie, Kownacki, Jennings, etc are legitimate threats to either Joshua or Wilder.

Until the next crop of prospects is ready or some cruiserweights like Usyk come up, to me it's a four man division at best.

Pretty much agree with all this, the division is very weak IMO. Usyk is a nightmare for anyone at HW when he moves up.