Comments Thread For: Lomachenko: I'm Convinced Usyk Will Beat Joshua and Bellew

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  • Oshio
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    #61
    Usyk should beat Bellew first

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    • JWHardin
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      #62
      Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
      Like I said the likes of Szpilka and Molina were causing Wilder all sorts of problem and were winning the fight before they got sloppy.

      Your correct that Wilder lacks technique and that is the fundamental reason why I think he would get dominated. He throws wide shots and against someone like Usyk who is athletic himself and who has boxing skills I cant see Wilder catching Usyk with one of those KO shots. Usyk would dance rings around him and unlike Ortiz, Molina or Szpilka he wont get tired.
      How about Usyk start with Ortiz then? He's old but still none of the top heavys aside from Willder want to fight him. Ortiz would probably KO Usyk.

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      • LetOutTheCage
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        #63
        Originally posted by JWHardin
        How about Usyk start with Ortiz then? He's old but still none of the top heavys aside from Willder want to fight him. Ortiz would probably KO Usyk.
        Sure I wouldnt expect Usyk to go from Bellew straight to Wilder/Joshua. He would need to dip his toes in the heavyweight division first.

        Yeah Ortiz would be a dangerous opponent as he probably better technically than both Wilder and Joshua, it would be a big scalp if in his first fight at heavyweight he takes out Ortiz

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          #64
          Originally posted by 5000boxing
          I agree with Loma..on AJ and bellend and whyte.. but Wilder ko's usyk round 7 or 8. Easy work.
          you'd drink Wilders bathwater if you had the chance wouldnt you?

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            #65
            Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
            Sure I wouldnt expect Usyk to go from Bellew straight to Wilder/Joshua. He would need to dip his toes in the heavyweight division first.

            Yeah Ortiz would be a dangerous opponent as he probably better technically than both Wilder and Joshua, it would be a big scalp if in his first fight at heavyweight he takes out Ortiz
            There is no way Usyk's people would let him fight Ortiz. Hell, even Joshua's people don't want anything to do with him, and Whyte is scared to death of him. Maybe when he gets to be 45-50 they will.

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              #66
              I don't know if Usyk will be a great heavyweight or not but he's 3 years older than Joshua and Wilder....That's not a good thing for a guy who will be depending on his reflexes to beat the heavyweight giants. I don't know...maybe he'll fare well but it's a bit of a stretch thinking that at this place in time.

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                #67
                Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
                Sure I wouldnt expect Usyk to go from Bellew straight to Wilder/Joshua. He would need to dip his toes in the heavyweight division first.

                Yeah Ortiz would be a dangerous opponent as he probably better technically than both Wilder and Joshua, it would be a big scalp if in his first fight at heavyweight he takes out Ortiz
                If Usyk fought Ortiz, I would have massive respect for him, win or lose.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Damn Wicked
                  I don't know if Usyk will be a great heavyweight or not but he's 3 years older than Joshua and Wilder....That's not a good thing for a guy who will be depending on his reflexes to beat the heavyweight giants. I don't know...maybe he'll fare well but it's a bit of a stretch thinking that at this place in time.
                  Joshua is 29, Usyk is 31, and Wilder is 33.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by batista84
                    Call me crazy but I think Usyk can beat any HW not named Victor Ortiz. And that is based on styles, Ortiz to me is the most skilled guy in the hw vidision, was outclassing Wilder till he got cracked..

                    Usyk is a very crafty boxer, his only downplay could be his power but I still think that he will make you block his punches.

                    Question is how his chin will hold up to the division.
                    Luis. I know Victor is said to put on a few Lbs between fights, but I don't think he's quite a Heavyweight just yet.

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                    • Jax teller
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by JWHardin
                      If Usyk fought Ortiz, I would have massive respect for him, win or lose.
                      He's a clearly top HW but why do you rate Ortiz so high I don't get what he's done to be put above the others?

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