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  • Ake-Dawg
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    #231
    Originally posted by Ray*
    It’s laughable watching them in spinning control. This is what happen when you are bias, when you can’t think for yourself, they just sprout out whatever Shelly says. Rinse and repeat, hopefully the ones that thought this was a one sided ducking would realise the game that Shelly was playing all along. Social media has already explode with this comments. People are now coming around, it would take more for the thick ones to get it doe.
    The exact same can be said for the Joshualites. Same ish, different day. Hearn sends a signed contract knowing its not going to be accepted, the fanboys go crazy. Noticably, while all this is going on, knowing that either the public statement or the action by Hearn has no substance, certain supposed fair minded fans are quiet.

    Call a spade a spade, not matter which side of the tracks or shall I say Atlantic, it comes from.

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    • Ake-Dawg
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      #232
      Originally posted by Froch_uppercut
      Sense being spoken for once.

      Even if Wilder beats the fat coke head - he is still the B side. Many people have elevated Fury to some kind of hw Sugar Ray - he will get destroyed by either Wlider or AJ. How his stock has risen after two glorified sparring sessions against nobodies.

      As for Wilder, he has the better negotiator in Finkel it seems, who is stubbornly refusing to engage in any meaningful / realistic talks.

      If people were reasonable, I’d say 60/40 AJ and rematch in USA if Wilder wins and then he gets 60/40. That should be do-able for both, and is a generous offer for Wilder.
      I agree with you. Wilder has to be reasonable and not expect 50-50. Nothing wrong with taking that as yoru negotiating position to start. I actually appreciate what Finkel said to Barry Hearn regarding sending a real offer. He's essentially saying, no more flat fee bs. You, me, and all reasonable fans believe that a percentage split is where such a large fight should be.

      For the record, I'm interested in the terms of the Fury contract. If it in anyway allows for Fury to force a 2nd fight in a loss, prior to a Wilder Joshua unification, I will acknowledge that Finkel and Hearn have been playing the marinate game all along and that I got played.

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      • Ray*
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        #233
        Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
        The exact same can be said for the Joshualites. Same ish, different day.

        Call a spade a spade, not matter which side of the tracks or shall I say Atlantic, it comes from.
        Difference is this spade blamed both sides... Guess which spade blamed one side.... Continue spinning mate.

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        • Zaroku
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          #234
          Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
          The exact same can be said for the Joshualites. Same ish, different day. Hearn sends a signed contract knowing its not going to be accepted, the fanboys go crazy. Noticably, while all this is going on, knowing that either the public statement or the action by Hearn has no substance, certain supposed fair minded fans are quiet.

          Call a spade a spade, not matter which side of the tracks or shall I say Atlantic, it comes from.
          You tell me... will I live to see it? I’m tired, ugly, old and grumpy...

          I needs my fisticuffs battles...

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          • suffolkbull3
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            #235
            Let us not forget that the joshua clan turned down $50 million!!! This FACT seems to slip peoples minds.. Why was it so easy to make wilder fury? By turning down $50 million that tells everyone in the entire world that the joshua clanis afraid of fighting wilder!! im not saying aj is afraid of wilder.. what im saying is that hearn and company are afraid! They are afraid that the gravy train will stop dead in its tracks!

            Wilder beat the most dangerous boxer in the heavyweight division in luis ortiz. Thats a fact. Nobody on ajs resume is more dangerous than ortiz.

            All these facts tell the real story to everyone in the world except the aj fanboys! They just want to talk about wilder being the b side and that he should take any money that the joshua clan offers him because it will be his career high payday. They FAIL to mention that it will also be ajs career high payday as well.

            The joshua clan DO NOT WANT TO FIGHT FILDER!!! WAKE THE FK UP!

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            • Jax teller
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              #236
              Originally posted by suffolkbull3
              Let us not forget that the joshua clan turned down $50 million!!! This FACT seems to slip peoples minds.. Why was it so easy to make wilder fury? By turning down $50 million that tells everyone in the entire world that the joshua clanis afraid of fighting wilder!! im not saying aj is afraid of wilder.. what im saying is that hearn and company are afraid! They are afraid that the gravy train will stop dead in its tracks!

              Wilder beat the most dangerous boxer in the heavyweight division in luis ortiz. Thats a fact. Nobody on ajs resume is more dangerous than ortiz.

              All these facts tell the real story to everyone in the world except the aj fanboys! They just want to talk about wilder being the b side and that he should take any money that the joshua clan offers him because it will be his career high payday. They FAIL to mention that it will also be ajs career high payday as well.

              The joshua clan DO NOT WANT TO FIGHT FILDER!!! WAKE THE FK UP!
              First how much do you think the fights worth?

              Then go watch Ortiz vs Allen and then tell me he's better than Klitschko or the other top guys on AJs resume.

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              • Froch_uppercut
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                #237
                Originally posted by suffolkbull3
                Let us not forget that the joshua clan turned down $50 million!!! This FACT seems to slip peoples minds.. Why was it so easy to make wilder fury? By turning down $50 million that tells everyone in the entire world that the joshua clanis afraid of fighting wilder!! im not saying aj is afraid of wilder.. what im saying is that hearn and company are afraid! They are afraid that the gravy train will stop dead in its tracks!

                Wilder beat the most dangerous boxer in the heavyweight division in luis ortiz. Thats a fact. Nobody on ajs resume is more dangerous than ortiz.

                All these facts tell the real story to everyone in the world except the aj fanboys! They just want to talk about wilder being the b side and that he should take any money that the joshua clan offers him because it will be his career high payday. They FAIL to mention that it will also be ajs career high payday as well.

                The joshua clan DO NOT WANT TO FIGHT FILDER!!! WAKE THE FK UP!
                That’s far too simplistic.

                If I offer you a Rolls Royce, but it is on condition that I get to kick you in the balls every day for the rest of your life, so you say no thanks, can I then say “clearly this guy doesn’t want a Rolls Royce, he turned it down.”

                It’s all about terms and conditions dude. Besides, AJ / Hearn didn’t even turn it down, they said “we’re interested, send us the T&C’s” and Wilder / Finkel would notbsend anything, wanted them to sign sight unseen. That’s madness and was simply a PR stunt by their side.

                This may fool some people, probably the type of people who think Donald Trump is a good leader.

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                • Raggamuffin
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                  #238
                  Originally posted by Straightener
                  Quite funny how people flip flop hard on this site

                  Yesterday Hearn was the devil for trying to get the ball rolling now Finkel drops a bollock and everyone is on full on deflect mode

                  I still think they didn’t want the fight ... you don’t sign a two fight deal with a guy who’s just had a two year lay off and two tune ups with guys ranked outside the top 130

                  Shambles
                  The world knows that Joshua is seen as a ***** now. If you can’t make a fight with a coward in his own country then why chase the coward when you can fight the man who truly won his titles against the true lineal champion.

                  The boxing world doesn’t need Frampton who cowardly turned down a fight with Rigo and they don’t need the flat fee offering tiny teef promoter or the stiff stoic coward either.

                  History will judge those two cowards. You’ll see lmao.

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                  • Raggamuffin
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                    #239
                    Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                    The exact same can be said for the Joshualites. Same ish, different day. Hearn sends a signed contract knowing its not going to be accepted, the fanboys go crazy. Noticably, while all this is going on, knowing that either the public statement or the action by Hearn has no substance, certain supposed fair minded fans are quiet.

                    Call a spade a spade, not matter which side of the tracks or shall I say Atlantic, it comes from.
                    The JDB crew are scared of me. They know not to quote me with ****** ****. They’ll get a dose of reality from me. They’re offering a flat fee for a unification fight, lmao. That’s how scared they are. Boxing doesn’t need them. They’re actors. They’re acting like they are the hvw champion of the world, lmao. Hilarious!!! 😂

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                    • Raggamuffin
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                      #240
                      Originally posted by Froch_uppercut
                      That’s far too simplistic.

                      If I offer you a Rolls Royce, but it is on condition that I get to kick you in the balls every day for the rest of your life, so you say no thanks, can I then say “clearly this guy doesn’t want a Rolls Royce, he turned it down.”

                      It’s all about terms and conditions dude. Besides, AJ / Hearn didn’t even turn it down, they said “we’re interested, send us the T&C’s” and Wilder / Finkel would notbsend anything, wanted them to sign sight unseen. That’s madness and was simply a PR stunt by their side.

                      This may fool some people, probably the type of people who think Donald Trump is a good leader.
                      No wonder you turned to this alt lmmfao.

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