Wilder v Fury 2 Way Rematch Clause?

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  • S.W.F.C
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    #41
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    Fury said during the negotiations that it was being treated as a unification, not a voluntary, and that level of respect being shown is the reason the fight was happening.
    Unification ? Fury holds zero belts.
    He also is not the lineal Champ.

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    • BennyBlanco
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      #42
      Originally posted by Stinger1



      According to this journalist of UK newspaper The Independent, Tyson Fury's trainer Ben Davison has said Tyson has a rematch clause as well which is bizarre for a voluntary defence. Basically means no chance of an April showdown with Joshua. If true it seems Wilder doesn't have much interest in fighting Joshua anymore.
      LOL...as if there was any chance that Hearn was going to allow that fight to happen in April.

      - AJ said give me $50 million and I'll sign tomorrow.
      - Wilder offered AJ $50 million with the condition that the fight be in the US.
      - AJ says fight must be in the UK.
      - AJ signs 2 fight deal with Wembley.
      - AJ offers Wilder $12.5M flat.
      - Hearn says Wilder must sign a contract before his 12/1 fight.

      AJ turned down the biggest purse in heavyweight history and instead wants to fight Wilder in the UK, where they both will get less money. Hearn won't budge off his $12.5M offer.

      Does that sound like the recipe for a Wilder-Joshua fight in
      April? Of course not. So why would Wilder account for a Joshua fight in April when there is no chance that will happen?

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        #43
        Originally posted by S.W.F.C
        Unification ? Fury holds zero belts.
        He also is not the lineal Champ.
        Most experts consider him the lineal champion. Nobody said he holds a belt. What was said was that in negotiations, Fury was given the respect of a fellow champion, not a voluntary challenger, which is why the fight was so appealing to Fury.

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          #44
          Originally posted by yammy25
          So why have you continued to take the stance of going on about Hearn / AJ etc not wanting the fight etc even for April if you've been operating under the assumption or knowledge that it would never take place due to a two fight deal for fury / wilder?
          Wilder possibly being unavailable in April doesn't change the fact that Hearn didn't want him in April anyway.

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          • yammy25
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            #45
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
            Wilder possibly being unavailable in April doesn't change the fact that Hearn didn't want him in April anyway.
            Well the current situation seems to have put paid to that notion given the meeting being held between Hearn senior and Finkel with mind to create that bout for April.. the opening of negotiations and the persistent reiterations from both Hearn and more importantly just Joshua that wilder is the number 1 priority for that date.

            Funny how the mutual rematch clause has now only surfaced from Davison..a somewhat credible source..after AJ's victory.

            You still haven't addressed why you lied about your account ..so I'll ask you again for a fourth time.

            Why did you lie about the active age of your account and claim it to be much longer than it really is?

            If you don't want to answer..or can't..then just say. Stop *****ing around the question

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              #46
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              Most experts consider him the lineal champion. Nobody said he holds a belt. What was said was that in negotiations, Fury was given the respect of a fellow champion, not a voluntary challenger, which is why the fight was so appealing to Fury.

              Most "EXPERTS ? lol ) would know know one credible would consider Tyson lineal when hes not fought any top guy in 3 years and coming off rehabilitation MENTALLY,,,,,,and failed drug tests and retirement statements several times.

              Fury lives in fantasyland and like Wilder is a habitual liar...

              That being said I favor Fury who stated he wanted tune up fightsa after Sefari to fight Joshua,not so much Wilder bc he knows its a far more winnable fight still with ring rust.

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                #47
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                Fury said during the negotiations that it was being treated as a unification, not a voluntary, and that level of respect being shown is the reason the fight was happening.
                There is no respect what so ever here... All I see is taking advantage of a rehab patient that wants to cash in.
                You have to throw in the banana to catch the monkey.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by yammy25
                  Funny how the mutual rematch clause has now only surfaced from Davison..a somewhat credible source..after AJ's victory.
                  There's nothing funny about it. Rematch clauses are supposed to be kept secret as to not damage the commercial interest in the first fight. There are many ways to structure a rematch clause. It doesn't necessarily have to be immediate and you can negotiate exceptions. I simply speculated when the Wilder/Fury talks first emerged that it was likely a two fight deal.


                  You still haven't addressed why you lied about your account ..so I'll ask you again for a fourth time.
                  I answer you, you don't like the answer, and then you just lie and claim I didn't answer you. Pretty pathetic tactic.


                  Why did you lie about the active age of your account and claim it to be much longer than it really is?
                  My original account is over a decade old. I stopped posting from it because it uses my real name and I don't want people to know who I am.

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                  • yammy25
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    There's nothing funny about it. Rematch clauses are supposed to be kept secret as to not damage the commercial interest in the first fight. There are many ways to structure a rematch clause. It doesn't necessarily have to be immediate and you can negotiate exceptions. I simply speculated when the Wilder/Fury talks first emerged that it was likely a two fight deal.




                    I answer you, you don't like the answer, and then you just lie and claim I didn't answer you. Pretty pathetic tactic.




                    My original account is over a decade old. I stopped posting from it because it uses my real name and I don't want people to know who I am.
                    Rematch clauses are nearly always made public in fights of this magnitude. I can't think of a big fight or super fight in the last 10 years that has featured a clause and it not be made public much earlier and certainly not by the b-sides trainer.

                    You answered once and it was a lie.. I even replied with your direct quote to the other forum member which was


                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    My original zero account goes back many years.


                    they are your actual words and I proved them to be false..very easily in fact by simply looking at the profile.

                    The only liar here is you.
                    Last edited by yammy25; 09-25-2018, 11:00 AM.

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                    • TysonFuryTBE
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                      #50
                      I actually know the answer to this, but I can't say. Furys team have a confidentiality agreement where they can't say anything about the contract until next Monday so I can't tell you guys, sorry.

                      Watch the press conference next Monday, they will say everything then

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