Povetkin is better than Ortiz

[LacedUp]

you said aj is not ducking

you were completely proven to be utterly brainwashed or biased, it simply cannot be denied mate

Yeah the guy who actually wanted meetings, sent multiple contracts and continued to make offers is ducking for life.

Mr “there’s no point in us meeting” and Mrs “I want 50/50 or no fight” clearly wanted the fight from the get go

[BLASTER1]

NO hes not.

[KillaCamNZ]

Lol no he's not but nice try what he is though Is a 2 time drug cheat who never deserved to fight for a title again

Uhhh, Ortiz was busted too...

[champion4ever]

The only facts that count are that Povetkin has a much much better resume than Ortiz. Better wins, has held a belt before, had a gold medal, has fought at the top level since he turned pro.

And Ortiz has done neither of those things.

Yeah you are right, while that motherfucker was juiced to the gills. Therefore, that resume of his don't mean shit.

The fact of the matter is, if the two were to meet in the ring today. Ortiz would fuck Povetkin up. That's right he tears his ass up. There's no way of getting around that fact.

He simply has more in the tank than Sasha Povetkin does at the moment. Since Alexander is no longer doping or juicing he is now shot to shit.

Wilder and Ortiz both would have brutally decapitated his ass on Saturday night. The best thing for Povetkin to do now at this point is to just retire for his own good before he gets seriously hurt.

[baroidi]

just shows you the continued poor state of the HW division when fans are arguing which 40 year old, that their favorite HW boxer beat, is better lol

[LacedUp]

Yeah you are right, while that motherfucker was juiced to the gills. Therefore, that resume of his don't mean shit.

The fact of the matter is, if the two were to meet in the ring today. Ortiz would fuck Povetkin up. That's right he tears his ass up. There's no way of getting around that fact.

He simply has more in the tank than Sasha Povetkin does at the moment. Since Alexander is no longer doping or juicing he is now shot to shit.

Wilder and Ortiz both would have brutally decapitated his ass on Saturday night. The best thing for Povetkin to do now at this point is to just retire for his own good before he gets seriously hurt.

Yeah, Ortiz is the undisputed king of fantasy match-ups that's for sure.

Reality:

- UD Malik Scott
- KO loss to Wilder
- Stunk the place out vs a journeyman David Allen with 7 fights

[Cutthroat]

Ortiz has the higher KO % because he fights complete garbage. Povetkins opponents are like HOF's in comparison. Thinking anything else is delusional.

With the bums Wilder fights, it's no surprise his connect percentage is high. It usually is when you fight garbage all the time. Maybe his windmill misses are counted as landed shots because of the wind generated? And Wilder is undefeated not due to him being so good, but due to fighting garbage for 40 fights. Most Heavies would be undefeated if they fought that dross.

Huck was top 5 when he fought Povetkin. He was actually the number 1 at the time. He hadn't even fought Arslan by the time he fought Povetkin, so that's something else you're wrong about. And he beat Ramirez pretty clearly so no robbery exists there i'm afraid.

Scott didn't start getting up until AFTER the 9 count was called. Go and watch the fight and see you're wrong again. Beating other shot fighters does not mean Scott wasn't shot himself. You stick two shot fighters in a ring together, one of them are going to win. Especially if they have more boxing ability which Scott had over those two.

What part of Chisora beating a prime undefeated version of Scott don't you understand? It's pretty simple, but you're having serious trouble with it. The version Ortiz beat wasn't worth one f5ck.

Do you realize Pedvetkin has literally never knocked out a fighter ranked as low as Bryant Jennings, Stiverne, or Ortiz?

Jennings was ranked in the top 4 and as low as #2 when he took Klitschko to a 12 round decision and scores of 116-111 on 2 judges cards.

Stiverne & Ortiz were ranked in the top 4 when Wilder beat them too.

The lowest ranked fighter Pedvetkin has fought recently was Takam 4 years ago and he was ranked like 10th lol.


Huck wasn't better than Cunningham who already stopped him, wasn't better than Adamek who beat Cunningham, wasn't better than Jones, or Glowacki who would later stop him as well. Huck got a gift decision to Ramirez, Olafabi, and Arslan.
The guy was the paper champion of cruiser and he took Pedvetkin to his limit, 0 wins over a HW btw.

Scott beat the 10 count and was composed, the ref waved it off anyway. He wasn't shot either, he was just outclassed.

Tony Thompson was still capable of beating 85% of the division including David Price whom Pedvetkin beat to earn a shot at AJ lmao. You keep trying to hype up these scrubs while downplaying the guys ranked ahead of them it's embarrassing.

[MidWestBrawler]

act like there is a glaring talent gap .

agreed that is dumb and why Wilder-Joshua should fight.

The resume gap is definitely glaring imo.


I never really considered povetkin-ortiz.

I'm drooling over that one, give me pov.

[Marchegiano]

Povetkin loses any time he fights anyone with any momentum behind them.

[Ray Corso]

Povetkin is an opponent, Ortiz is a contender.

Far from great fighters but Ortiz will fight as proven vs Wilder.
Ortiz brings some power and Povetkin does not!

I'd like to see Ortiz vs Whyte, might be interesting.


Ray